[Leica] BIG new Leica - TINA

Thu Oct 22 20:23:04 PDT 2015

> On Oct 22, 2015, at 7:07 PM, Aram Langhans <leica_r8 at hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Ah ha.  I don't think you ever expounded about why the EVF on the Q was not to your liking.  I remember when I was playing around with one in Frisco, I complained about the lag, and the salesperson took the camera, poked around in the menu a bit and gave it back to me and it was like instantaneous.  I am not sure what mode it was in, maybe a video mode or something, but when he revised the setting, the viewfinder was the most responsive EVF I have ever played with.  And I have been an EVF hater since the Nikon1 when I first considered a small walkaround camera.
> 
> So, maybe that is what was wrong with the one you were playing around with.  It certainly made me dizzy until he fixed it.
> 
> Can't do anything about what you think of as plastic feeling, but the viewfinder is certainly one of the real strong points of the Q, and probably even more so with the SL.


dense and heavy son of a gun with a terrific EVF is my impression,

most important is great images with fast, dependable auto,


steve


> 
> Aram
> 
> Aram Langhans
> (Semi) Retired  Science Teacher
> & Unemployed photographer
> 
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tina Manley [mailto:tmanley at gmail.com] 
> Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 1:44 PM
> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> Subject: Re: [Leica] BIG new Leica - TINA
> 
> The Q is very light and plastic feeling.  The SL is heavy and brick-like.
> More like an M.  I will just have to learn to work with the EVF which others seem to love.  The reviews say it is much faster with less lag than the Q which is what made me dizzy.  I don't use the EVF on the M240 much.
> Only when I have the R lenses on it.
> 
> Tina
> 
> On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 4:39 PM, John McMaster <john at mcmaster.fr> wrote:
> 
>> Will it be much different from the Q viewfinder that you seemed to hate?
>> Or to an M(240) with (lower resolution) EVF?
>> 
>> john
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> 
>> You can use all of the Leica M and R lenses on it with adapters but 
>> they won't be autofocus.  Supposedly the very large, bright viewfinder 
>> makes it easier to manually focus them.
>> 
>> Tina
>> 
>> On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 4:33 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> The Leica SL with a small lens on it would be near pocketable 
>>> (jacket exterior pocket) unlike the Nikon. But like the M
>>> 
>>> I think we need to not define a camera body by the stupidly huge 
>>> lens someone puts on it. Any camera body can have a modest to 
>>> compact optic on front of it instead of a metal munching fast zoom 
>>> or a zoom with an overly wide range... And VR makes a lens way heavier and I think bulkier.
>>> 
>>> I'm saying put more Leicalike glass in front of these bodies and we 
>>> can see how they compare with an M with a typical M optic on it.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 10/22/15 3:50 PM, "Aram Langhans" <leica_r8 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Interesting.  He also seems to state it has better image quality 
>>>> than
>>> the M.
>>>> Here is a quote:
>>>> 
>>>> "The SL is not a cheap camera  EUR6,000+ for the body and a 
>>>> further EUR4,000+ for each lens makes this the preserve of the 
>>>> very wealthy,
>>> though
>>>> in reality I suspect most of Leica¹s existing audience will see 
>>>> this one
>>> as
>>>> a no-brainer. M lenses are now virtually native, as are R lenses; 
>>>> they¹re easy to focus and image quality is better than from the M 
>>>> cameras. It
>>> would
>>>> have been nice to see more resolution, but I suspect this might 
>>>> have
>>> eaten
>>>> uncomfortably into S system sales. I actually suspect this camera 
>>>> is the beginning of the end of the M resurgence  a typical 
>>>> complaint from M
>>> users
>>>> I know is one of deteriorating eyesight and difficulty in 
>>>> achieving
>>> focus.
>>>> We no longer have that problem. And for those used to paying 
>>>> $7,000+ for
>>> a
>>>> body, the SL isn¹t a stretch at all."
>>>> 
>>>> He also goes on a bit about the size.   BIG
>>>> 
>>>> Aram Langhans
>>>> (Semi) Retired  Science Teacher
>>>> & Unemployed photographer
>>>> 
>>>> ³The Human Genome Project has proved Darwin more right than Darwin
>>> himself
>>>> would ever have dared dream.²   James D. Watson
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: John McMaster [mailto:john at mcmaster.fr]
>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 11:58 AM
>>>> To: 'Leica Users Group' <lug at leica-users.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] BIG new Leica - TINA
>>>> 
>>>> It is the lenses, almost same size and weight as S lenses!
>>>> 
>>>> https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5790/21615453253_1c85b372e2_c.jpg
>>>> 
>>>> SL compared to a D810 with 24-120/4 lens....
>>>> 
>>>> (from
>>>> http://blog.mingthein.com/2015/10/21/premiere-review-2015-leica-sl
>>>> -6
>>>> 01/
>>> )
>>>> 
>>>> john
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> 
>>>> It's really not that big of a camera, but folks are hung up on 
>>>> this idea that a mirrorless camera has to be a tiny little thing.
>>>> SL size compared to a digital M:
>>>> https://tinyurl.com/ppbdsr8
>>>> 
>>>> I look forward to seeing what you can do with it, Tina.
>>>> 
>>>> Jay
>>>> 
>>>> On 10/21/2015 3:17 PM, Tina Manley wrote:
>>>>> Has anybody posted a photo of it compared to the size of the M9 
>>>>> or the M240?  The Sony and Fuji mirrorless cameras are actually 
>>>>> too small and too light for me.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Tina
>>>> 
>>>> 
>> 
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