[Leica] BIG new Leica - TINA

Thu Oct 22 16:31:14 PDT 2015

It's a Sony a99.  Here is Steve Huff's comment: "I call this new
Hasselblad the “HPV 99” (there really is no 99 in the name, nor a “P”)
because it is the Sony A99 with a new coat of paint and cosmetics at an
almost $9000 premium, which to me sounds like a big old genital wart on the
camera industry. Yep, should be called the HPV 99."

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com 

On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 2:41 PM, Tina Manley <tmanley at gmail.com> wrote:

> If I did not have a ton of Leica lenses, I would be very tempted by this:
>
>
> http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1034962-REG/hasselblad_h_1105101_hv_dslr_camera_with.html
>
> Why have they reduced the price so much!!???
>
> Tina
>
> On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 4:44 PM, Tina Manley <tmanley at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > The Q is very light and plastic feeling.  The SL is heavy and brick-like.
> > More like an M.  I will just have to learn to work with the EVF which
> > others seem to love.  The reviews say it is much faster with less lag
> than
> > the Q which is what made me dizzy.  I don't use the EVF on the M240 much.
> > Only when I have the R lenses on it.
> >
> > Tina
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 4:39 PM, John McMaster <john at mcmaster.fr> wrote:
> >
> >> Will it be much different from the Q viewfinder that you seemed to hate?
> >> Or to an M(240) with (lower resolution) EVF?
> >>
> >> john
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >>
> >> You can use all of the Leica M and R lenses on it with adapters but they
> >> won't be autofocus.  Supposedly the very large, bright viewfinder makes
> it
> >> easier to manually focus them.
> >>
> >> Tina
> >>
> >> On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 4:33 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> > The Leica SL with a small lens on it would be near pocketable (jacket
> >> > exterior pocket) unlike the Nikon. But like the M
> >> >
> >> > I think we need to not define a camera body by the stupidly huge lens
> >> > someone puts on it. Any camera body can have a modest to compact optic
> >> > on front of it instead of a metal munching fast zoom or a zoom with an
> >> > overly wide range... And VR makes a lens way heavier and I think
> >> bulkier.
> >> >
> >> > I'm saying put more Leicalike glass in front of these bodies and we
> >> > can see how they compare with an M with a typical M optic on it.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On 10/22/15 3:50 PM, "Aram Langhans" <leica_r8 at hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Interesting.  He also seems to state it has better image quality
> >> > > than
> >> > the M.
> >> > > Here is a quote:
> >> > >
> >> > > "The SL is not a cheap camera  EUR6,000+ for the body and a further
> >> > > EUR4,000+ for each lens makes this the preserve of the very wealthy,
> >> > though
> >> > > in reality I suspect most of Leica¹s existing audience will see this
> >> > > one
> >> > as
> >> > > a no-brainer. M lenses are now virtually native, as are R lenses;
> >> > > they¹re easy to focus and image quality is better than from the M
> >> > > cameras. It
> >> > would
> >> > > have been nice to see more resolution, but I suspect this might have
> >> > eaten
> >> > > uncomfortably into S system sales. I actually suspect this camera is
> >> > > the beginning of the end of the M resurgence  a typical complaint
> >> > > from M
> >> > users
> >> > > I know is one of deteriorating eyesight and difficulty in achieving
> >> > focus.
> >> > > We no longer have that problem. And for those used to paying $7,000+
> >> > > for
> >> > a
> >> > > body, the SL isn¹t a stretch at all."
> >> > >
> >> > > He also goes on a bit about the size.   BIG
> >> > >
> >> > > Aram Langhans
> >> > > (Semi) Retired  Science Teacher
> >> > > & Unemployed photographer
> >> > >
> >> > > ³The Human Genome Project has proved Darwin more right than Darwin
> >> > himself
> >> > > would ever have dared dream.²   James D. Watson
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > From: John McMaster [mailto:john at mcmaster.fr]
> >> > > Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 11:58 AM
> >> > > To: 'Leica Users Group' <lug at leica-users.org>
> >> > > Subject: Re: [Leica] BIG new Leica - TINA
> >> > >
> >> > > It is the lenses, almost same size and weight as S lenses!
> >> > >
> >> > > https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5790/21615453253_1c85b372e2_c.jpg
> >> > >
> >> > > SL compared to a D810 with 24-120/4 lens....
> >> > >
> >> > > (from
> >> > >
> http://blog.mingthein.com/2015/10/21/premiere-review-2015-leica-sl-6
> >> > > 01/
> >> > )
> >> > >
> >> > > john
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > >
> >> > > It's really not that big of a camera, but folks are hung up on this
> >> > > idea that a mirrorless camera has to be a tiny little thing.
> >> > > SL size compared to a digital M:
> >> > > https://tinyurl.com/ppbdsr8
> >> > >
> >> > > I look forward to seeing what you can do with it, Tina.
> >> > >
> >> > > Jay
> >> > >
> >> > > On 10/21/2015 3:17 PM, Tina Manley wrote:
> >> > >> Has anybody posted a photo of it compared to the size of the M9 or
> >> > >> the M240?  The Sony and Fuji mirrorless cameras are actually too
> >> > >> small and too light for me.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Tina
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >>
> >>
> >>
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