[Leica] BIG new Leica - TINA

Thu Oct 22 15:13:56 PDT 2015

It is a rebadged Sony, Tina

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> On Oct 22, 2015, at 4:41 PM, Tina Manley <tmanley at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> If I did not have a ton of Leica lenses, I would be very tempted by this:
> 
> http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1034962-REG/hasselblad_h_1105101_hv_dslr_camera_with.html
> 
> Why have they reduced the price so much!!???
> 
> Tina
> 
>> On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 4:44 PM, Tina Manley <tmanley at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> The Q is very light and plastic feeling.  The SL is heavy and brick-like.
>> More like an M.  I will just have to learn to work with the EVF which
>> others seem to love.  The reviews say it is much faster with less lag than
>> the Q which is what made me dizzy.  I don't use the EVF on the M240 much.
>> Only when I have the R lenses on it.
>> 
>> Tina
>> 
>>> On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 4:39 PM, John McMaster <john at mcmaster.fr> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Will it be much different from the Q viewfinder that you seemed to hate?
>>> Or to an M(240) with (lower resolution) EVF?
>>> 
>>> john
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> 
>>> You can use all of the Leica M and R lenses on it with adapters but they
>>> won't be autofocus.  Supposedly the very large, bright viewfinder makes it
>>> easier to manually focus them.
>>> 
>>> Tina
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 4:33 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> The Leica SL with a small lens on it would be near pocketable (jacket
>>>> exterior pocket) unlike the Nikon. But like the M
>>>> 
>>>> I think we need to not define a camera body by the stupidly huge lens
>>>> someone puts on it. Any camera body can have a modest to compact optic
>>>> on front of it instead of a metal munching fast zoom or a zoom with an
>>>> overly wide range... And VR makes a lens way heavier and I think
>>> bulkier.
>>>> 
>>>> I'm saying put more Leicalike glass in front of these bodies and we
>>>> can see how they compare with an M with a typical M optic on it.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 10/22/15 3:50 PM, "Aram Langhans" <leica_r8 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Interesting.  He also seems to state it has better image quality
>>>>> than
>>>> the M.
>>>>> Here is a quote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> "The SL is not a cheap camera  EUR6,000+ for the body and a further
>>>>> EUR4,000+ for each lens makes this the preserve of the very wealthy,
>>>> though
>>>>> in reality I suspect most of Leica¹s existing audience will see this
>>>>> one
>>>> as
>>>>> a no-brainer. M lenses are now virtually native, as are R lenses;
>>>>> they¹re easy to focus and image quality is better than from the M
>>>>> cameras. It
>>>> would
>>>>> have been nice to see more resolution, but I suspect this might have
>>>> eaten
>>>>> uncomfortably into S system sales. I actually suspect this camera is
>>>>> the beginning of the end of the M resurgence  a typical complaint
>>>>> from M
>>>> users
>>>>> I know is one of deteriorating eyesight and difficulty in achieving
>>>> focus.
>>>>> We no longer have that problem. And for those used to paying $7,000+
>>>>> for
>>>> a
>>>>> body, the SL isn¹t a stretch at all."
>>>>> 
>>>>> He also goes on a bit about the size.   BIG
>>>>> 
>>>>> Aram Langhans
>>>>> (Semi) Retired  Science Teacher
>>>>> & Unemployed photographer
>>>>> 
>>>>> ³The Human Genome Project has proved Darwin more right than Darwin
>>>> himself
>>>>> would ever have dared dream.²   James D. Watson
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: John McMaster [mailto:john at mcmaster.fr]
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 11:58 AM
>>>>> To: 'Leica Users Group' <lug at leica-users.org>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] BIG new Leica - TINA
>>>>> 
>>>>> It is the lenses, almost same size and weight as S lenses!
>>>>> 
>>>>> https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5790/21615453253_1c85b372e2_c.jpg
>>>>> 
>>>>> SL compared to a D810 with 24-120/4 lens....
>>>>> 
>>>>> (from
>>>>> http://blog.mingthein.com/2015/10/21/premiere-review-2015-leica-sl-6
>>>>> 01/
>>>> )
>>>>> 
>>>>> john
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> 
>>>>> It's really not that big of a camera, but folks are hung up on this
>>>>> idea that a mirrorless camera has to be a tiny little thing.
>>>>> SL size compared to a digital M:
>>>>> https://tinyurl.com/ppbdsr8
>>>>> 
>>>>> I look forward to seeing what you can do with it, Tina.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Jay
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 10/21/2015 3:17 PM, Tina Manley wrote:
>>>>>> Has anybody posted a photo of it compared to the size of the M9 or
>>>>>> the M240?  The Sony and Fuji mirrorless cameras are actually too
>>>>>> small and too light for me.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Tina
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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>> 
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