[Leica] (SPAM: ?) Re: BIG new Leica - TINA

Thu Oct 22 14:45:54 PDT 2015

Keep reading Mark there are quite a few I follow but maybe not names you would recognize but pros none the less

Scott

> On Oct 22, 2015, at 5:37 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote:
> 
> Someone mentioned in the many reviews coming out somthign to the tune of
> "have you ever used an mirrorless camera before?" as it might be a big of a
> shock we're used to cameras on our faces for decades not being held out in
> front of us.
> I don't belive they are catching on with serious users and pros like gang
> busters. Somewhere I'm sure there must be list of serious pros whose names
> ring a bell who use them now but I cant Bing nor Google it anywhere.
> I did read a thing "44 percent of all pros have switched to mirrorless" on
> sights selling computer flash drives.
> 
> 
>> On 10/22/15 4:44 PM, "Tina Manley" <tmanley at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> The Q is very light and plastic feeling.  The SL is heavy and brick-like.More
>> like an M.  I will just have to learn to work with the EVF which
> others seem
>> to love.  The reviews say it is much faster with less lag than
> the Q which is
>> what made me dizzy.  I don't use the EVF on the M240 much.
> Only when I have
>> the R lenses on it.
> 
> Tina
> 
> On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 4:39 PM, John McMaster
>> <john at mcmaster.fr> wrote:
> 
>> Will it be much different from the Q viewfinder
>> that you seemed to hate?
>> Or to an M(240) with (lower resolution) EVF?
>> 
>> 
>> john
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> 
>> You can use all of the Leica M and R
>> lenses on it with adapters but they
>> won't be autofocus.  Supposedly the very
>> large, bright viewfinder makes it
>> easier to manually focus them.
>> 
>> 
>> Tina
>> 
>> On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 4:33 PM, Mark Rabiner
>> <mark at rabinergroup.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> The Leica SL with a small lens on it
>> would be near pocketable (jacket
>>> exterior pocket) unlike the Nikon. But
>> like the M
>>> 
>>> I think we need to not define a camera body by the stupidly
>> huge lens
>>> someone puts on it. Any camera body can have a modest to compact
>> optic
>>> on front of it instead of a metal munching fast zoom or a zoom with
>> an
>>> overly wide range... And VR makes a lens way heavier and I think
>> bulkier.
>>> 
>>> I'm saying put more Leicalike glass in front of these bodies
>> and we
>>> can see how they compare with an M with a typical M optic on it.
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 10/22/15 3:50 PM, "Aram Langhans"
>> <leica_r8 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Interesting.  He also seems to state
>> it has better image quality
>>>> than
>>> the M.
>>>> Here is a quote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> "The SL is not a cheap camera  EUR6,000+ for the body and a further>
>>>> EUR4,000+ for each lens makes this the preserve of the very wealthy,
>>> 
>> though
>>>> in reality I suspect most of Leica¹s existing audience will see
>> this
>>>> one
>>> as
>>>> a no-brainer. M lenses are now virtually native,
>> as are R lenses;
>>>> they¹re easy to focus and image quality is better than
>> from the M
>>>> cameras. It
>>> would
>>>> have been nice to see more
>> resolution, but I suspect this might have
>>> eaten
>>>> uncomfortably into S
>> system sales. I actually suspect this camera is
>>>> the beginning of the end
>> of the M resurgence  a typical complaint
>>>> from M
>>> users
>>>> I know
>> is one of deteriorating eyesight and difficulty in achieving
>>> focus.
>>>> 
>> We no longer have that problem. And for those used to paying $7,000+
>>>> 
>> for
>>> a
>>>> body, the SL isn¹t a stretch at all."
>>>> 
>>>> He also goes
>> on a bit about the size.   BIG
>>>> 
>>>> Aram Langhans
>>>> (Semi) Retired
>> Science Teacher
>>>> & Unemployed photographer
>>>> 
>>>> ³The Human Genome
>> Project has proved Darwin more right than Darwin
>>> himself
>>>> would ever
>> have dared dream.²   James D. Watson
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original
>> Message-----
>>>> From: John McMaster [mailto:john at mcmaster.fr]
>>>> Sent:
>> Thursday, October 22, 2015 11:58 AM
>>>> To: 'Leica Users Group'
>> <lug at leica-users.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] BIG new Leica - TINA
>>>> 
>> 
>>>> It is the lenses, almost same size and weight as S lenses!
>>>> 
>>>> 
>> https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5790/21615453253_1c85b372e2_c.jpg
>>>> 
>>>> 
>> SL compared to a D810 with 24-120/4 lens....
>>>> 
>>>> (from
>>>> 
>> http://blog.mingthein.com/2015/10/21/premiere-review-2015-leica-sl-6
>>>> 
>> 01/
>>> )
>>>> 
>>>> john
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> It's really not that big of a camera, but folks are hung up on this
>> 
>>>> idea that a mirrorless camera has to be a tiny little thing.
>>>> SL size
>> compared to a digital M:
>>>> https://tinyurl.com/ppbdsr8
>>>> 
>>>> I look
>> forward to seeing what you can do with it, Tina.
>>>> 
>>>> Jay
>>>> 
>>>> 
>> On 10/21/2015 3:17 PM, Tina Manley wrote:
>>>>> Has anybody posted a photo of
>> it compared to the size of the M9 or
>>>>> the M240?  The Sony and Fuji
>> mirrorless cameras are actually too
>>>>> small and too light for me.
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> Tina
>>>> 
>>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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