[Leica] (SPAM: ?) Re: BIG new Leica - TINA

Thu Oct 22 14:41:43 PDT 2015

> On Oct 22, 2015, at 2:31 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote:
> 
> The first made for the camera lens is this big zoom but soon to come will be
> prime lenses which I do believe might be worth the wait which I don't think
> will be very long. The thing after all is a Leica and deserves to not have a
> super front heavy configuration to it. Sure Leica R's and SL's had big zooms
> people used for them but was not the first thing they grabbed as they rushed
> out the door.. People put 50's and 60's on them. and prime wides.
> Lenses which said "Summicron" on them. And Super-Angulon.

sounds counter intuitive to have come out with a big zoom first.  What’s your guess Mark ?

s

> 
> And you'll feel something akin to the electric thrill I once enjoyed when
> Gilmore, Liberatti, Pat Conway, The Great Creatore, W.C. Handy and John
> Philip Sousa all came to town on the very same historic day.
> 
> 
> On 10/22/15 4:36 PM, "Tina Manley" <tmanley at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> You can use all of the Leica M and R lenses on it with adapters but they
> won't
>> be autofocus.  Supposedly the very large, bright viewfinder makes it
> easier to
>> manually focus them.
> 
> Tina
> 
> On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 4:33 PM, Mark Rabiner
>> <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote:
> 
>> The Leica SL with a small lens on it would
>> be near pocketable (jacket
>> exterior pocket) unlike the Nikon. But like the
>> M
>> 
>> I think we need to not define a camera body by the stupidly huge lens
>> 
>> someone puts on it. Any camera body can have a modest to compact optic on>
>> front of it instead of a metal munching fast zoom or a zoom with an overly
>> 
>> wide range... And VR makes a lens way heavier and I think bulkier.
>> 
>> I'm
>> saying put more Leicalike glass in front of these bodies and we can see
>> how
>> they compare with an M with a typical M optic on it.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 10/22/15
>> 3:50 PM, "Aram Langhans" <leica_r8 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Interesting.  He
>> also seems to state it has better image quality than
>> the M.
>>> Here is a
>> quote:
>>> 
>>> "The SL is not a cheap camera  EUR6,000+ for the body and a
>> further
>>> EUR4,000+ for each lens makes this the preserve of the very
>> wealthy,
>> though
>>> in reality I suspect most of Leica¹s existing audience
>> will see this one
>> as
>>> a no-brainer. M lenses are now virtually native, as
>> are R lenses; they¹re
>>> easy to focus and image quality is better than from
>> the M cameras. It
>> would
>>> have been nice to see more resolution, but I
>> suspect this might have
>> eaten
>>> uncomfortably into S system sales. I
>> actually suspect this camera is the
>>> beginning of the end of the M
>> resurgence  a typical complaint from M
>> users
>>> I know is one of
>> deteriorating eyesight and difficulty in achieving
>> focus.
>>> We no longer
>> have that problem. And for those used to paying $7,000+ for
>> a
>>> body, the
>> SL isn¹t a stretch at all."
>>> 
>>> He also goes on a bit about the size.
>> BIG
>>> 
>>> Aram Langhans
>>> (Semi) Retired  Science Teacher
>>> & Unemployed
>> photographer
>>> 
>>> ³The Human Genome Project has proved Darwin more right
>> than Darwin
>> himself
>>> would ever have dared dream.²   James D. Watson
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: John McMaster
>> [mailto:john at mcmaster.fr]
>>> Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 11:58 AM
>>> 
>> To: 'Leica Users Group' <lug at leica-users.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] BIG new
>> Leica - TINA
>>> 
>>> It is the lenses, almost same size and weight as S
>> lenses!
>>> 
>>> 
>> https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5790/21615453253_1c85b372e2_c.jpg
>>> 
>>> SL
>> compared to a D810 with 24-120/4 lens....
>>> 
>>> (from
>>> 
>> http://blog.mingthein.com/2015/10/21/premiere-review-2015-leica-sl-601/
>> )
>> 
>>> 
>>> john
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> 
>>> It's really not that
>> big of a camera, but folks are hung up on this idea
>>> that a mirrorless
>> camera has to be a tiny little thing.
>>> SL size compared to a digital M:
>>> 
>> https://tinyurl.com/ppbdsr8
>>> 
>>> I look forward to seeing what you can do
>> with it, Tina.
>>> 
>>> Jay
>>> 
>>> On 10/21/2015 3:17 PM, Tina Manley wrote:
>> 
>>>> Has anybody posted a photo of it compared to the size of the M9 or the> >>
>> M240?  The Sony and Fuji mirrorless cameras are actually too small and
>>>> 
>> too light for me.
>>>> 
>>>> Tina
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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>> 
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>> 
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