[Leica] If not Lightroom, ...

Wed Oct 14 00:55:36 PDT 2015

I have had Photoshop since V3 Mark, so not as long as you.
OTOH about 75% of what it is designed for I have never used, since it is not really only appropriate for conventional photography but mainly creating artwork sometimes using the last vestiges of a photograph as a root. I am neither artistic enough, nor talented enough at those Photoshop specifics, to do any of this.

What I like about Lightroom is that it stripped out of Photoshop those features it had which were very specific to presenting photographs in a normal way.

When I bought Photoshop originally I had to buy it with a whole suite of other programmes which I did not use at all.

Now I can buy a photographer-centric version of Photoshop - Lightroom, without paying for all the useless, to me, functionality of the full programme. I was a bit like not having to buy a whole suite of programmes just to get Photoshop.
I do not consider it to be inexpensive in comparison to Photoshop since it is effectively just buying the part of Photoshop which I need and paying nowt for the part that I don’t ever use.

On top of that its file organisation is better than Bridge for photographs in my opinion.

So IME the full version of Photoshop is a waste of money for a photographer whose intention is to produce excellent quality prints from their exposures, and catalogue them rather than take the exposure as a basis for a bit of artwork.

cheers,

Frank

> On 13 Oct 2015, at 17:22, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote:
> 
> I know a lot of people who never stopped using Photoshop.
> Not Adobe Photoshop LightRoom 6. But Adobe Photoshop Photoshop that has
> dominated quality digital photography before digital photography even
> existed in 1991 which is when I started using it..
> There are new people buying it everyday as well.
> It's like your supposed to be embarrassed to be a liberal. I'm ok with both
> Photoshop use AND being a lefty.
> 
> I'm sure Lightroom has the market share and some good top people are using
> it. It cost $142.99 cents which is what a cheap here today gone tomorrow
> third part filter cost for the real Photoshop. I'm sure it comes free with
> some scanners and cameras.
> If you don't want to pay 5 times more for the real Photoshop and make the
> commitment to using that's great. But lets not pretend Photoshop doesn't
> exist shall we? The real one. Adobe Bridge browser still is downloadable as
> part of the CC Adobe system and I've been using it for close to a decade and
> never heard of Mechanic.
> 
> Capture One comes free when you get a Digital camera back from Phase One,
> Mamiya and Leaf the software is free and called Capture One 8 DB its what
> people use when they use digital backs or who want their cameras tethered to
> huge screen so art directors and clients can direct their shoots and they
> know they're getting paid because whatever happens is not going to be blamed
> on them. Its not their image.  Now you can tether up your Canon or Nikon to
> it.
> Its still thought of my anybody I ever met as a medium format digital
> solution though I know one guy who switched from Photoshop to  Capture One
> something  a few years ago and I've not seen a pic he's done nor him since.
> I think the program might be tethering him wirelessly. He's off somewhere
> harvesting silicon for the big take over.
> 
> 
> 
> On 10/12/15 11:50 PM, "Richard Man" <richard at richardmanphoto.com> wrote:
> 
>> Adobe is having issues with ONE version of Lightroom. The sky is
>> not
> falling.
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 7:54 PM, Gerry Walden
>> <gerry.walden at icloud.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> In my opinion LR is the only way to go if
>> you want a fully integrated
>> piece of well developed software. It has a few
>> detractors, mostly those who
>> object to paying monthly for it, but for every
>> detractor there are hundreds
>> of very satisfied users.
>> 
>> For serious users
>> there are, I am afraid, very few alternatives. Probably
>> the one that comes
>> closest is the combination of Photo Mechanic and Capture
>> One Pro. Both are
>> extremely good pieces of software but C1Pro is a bit
>> quirky and can take
>> some time to get used to. Once you are used to it and
>> used to Photo Mechanic
>> the combination of the two can be very good but they
>> are not as integrated
>> as LR is. I am sorry to say that the market has been
>> pretty much sewn up by
>> LR, like it or lump it.
>> 
>> Gerry
>> 
>> 
>>> On 13 Oct 2015, at 03:38, Spencer
>> Cheng <spencer at aotera.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Apple has abandoned Aperture. Adobe
>> seems to have major issues with LR
>> according to many of you.
>>> 
>>> I am in
>> the midst of deciding what to use instead of Aperture. Apple¹s
>> Photos is too
>> minimal for me as a image management package.
>>> 
>>> What software should I
>> be considering instead?
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Spencer
>>> 
>>> 
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