[Leica] XP-2 mini labs

[Ken Carney]

Some years ago I came down with kidney cancer.  My family was convinced, 
without any particular information, that I had poisoned myself in the 
darkroom.  I dismissed that, naturally, since I was careful with the 
chemistry, especially platinum prints, had over-engineered air 
filtration etc.  But later, I did ask my surgeon what causes kidney 
cancer, anyway?  He said largely unknown, though the prototypical 
example is someone working with aniline dyes. Later, I read somewhere 
that aniline dyes are a component of film developers...info not shared 
with the family if true.  I made silver dimes also...Now when they put 
me under, the doctor will say poor Ken, if only he had stuck with the 
darkroom instead of absorbing all that monitor radiation.

Ken

On 11/27/2015 2:34 PM, Steve Barbour wrote:
>> On Nov 27, 2015, at 10:32 AM, Bill Pearce <billcpearce at cox.net> wrote:
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>> I'm very glad to hear that. At least locally, although I recall other states had problems with chemicals (California, perhaps?), There's nothing in B&W that is any more dangerous than what's in the chemistry class down the hall. But I may be senile, when I was in school, we played with mercury in science class, made silver pennies.
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>> -----Original Message----- From: Richard Man
>> Sent: Friday, November 27, 2015 3:33 AM
>> To: Leica Users Group
>> Subject: Re: [Leica] XP-2 mini labs
>>
>> Sorry not being able to catch up with a lot of postings, bt re: B&W
>> processing inn HS and colleges: our daughters' HS still teaches B&W film
>> processing and so does the 2nd daughter's college. In fact, she is almost
>> finishes with first photo course!
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>> On Thu, Nov 26, 2015 at 4:22 PM, Mark Kronquist <mak at teleport.com> wrote:
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>>> Green century in PDX is in process of recycling tons of labs if anyone
>>> needs one
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>>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>>> On Nov 26, 2015, at 3:48 PM, Chris Crawford <
>>> chris at chriscrawfordphoto.com> wrote:
>>>> Bill,
>>>>
>>>> No model of the Fuji Frontier ever had plumbing hookups. The machines I
>>>> used were the Fuji SFA series, and they, long before the Frontier
>>>> machines, also had NO plumbing hookups. Those no-plumbing minicabs > became
>>>> available nearly 30 years ago. By the time I worked with them, 20 yrs
>>> ago,
>>>> they were already the standard in the industry.
>>>>
>>>> Pro labs used machines that had real running water wash, but one hour
>>> labs
>>>> were using Fuji, Noritsu, Gretag, and Agfa minilabs with no running
>>> water.
>>>> --
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>>>> Fine Art Photography
>>>> Fort Wayne, Indiana
>>>> 260-437-8990
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>>>> On 11/26/15, 5:59 PM, "LUG on behalf of Bill Pearce"
>>>> <lug-bounces+chris=chriscrawfordphoto.com at leica-users.org on behalf of
>>>> billcpearce at cox.net> wrote:
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Much of what you write here is just not true.
>>>>>
>>>>> First: The no-plumpbing minilabs came out long before digital, and were
>>>>> not an attempt to Œsell more machines before it was too late.¹ I know, >> I
>>>>> worked in a one-hour lab back then, and we used such machines. Long
>>> before
>>>>> digital cameras, long before digital minicabs like the Fuji Frontier.
>>>>>
>>>>> But were your Frontiers the ones hooked up with plumbing with a
>>>>> consistent
>>>>> flow of fresh washwater? Most were. Minilab machines without plumbing
>>>>> connections were very late to the market.
>>>>>
>>>>> Second: Black and white film developing and darkroom printing have most
>>>>> certainly NOT been banished from public schools in the USA. I¹m a >> public
>>>>> school teacher in the largest public school district in Indiana. All
>>> five
>>>>> of our academic high schools have photography classes using black and
>>>>> white film where students develop film by hand and make prints in the
>>>>> darkroom, by hand. The classes are quite popular, too. We also teach
>>>>> digital photo/Photoshop/digital printing as well.
>>>>>
>>>>> Where I live in Brownbackistan, public schools are generally out of the
>>>>> wet
>>>>> darkroom business, unless some have been reintroduced recently.
>>>>>
>>>>> Processing machinery went Œto the bottom of the landfill¹ because >> people
>>>>> stopped shooting film and started shooting digital. This had nothing to
>>> do
>>>>> with fear of chemicals.
>>>>>
>>>>> never meant to say it did, just that it was the final na
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>> // richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com>
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