[Leica] New M

Fri Nov 20 05:01:18 PST 2015

I'm new to Utube ing there's no more reason to read any more you can see
home made videos concerning any topic you can think of. I was U tubing
Billingham bags I've found them necessary just got get an idea of how BIG
they are. Stills were not showing me. But with Utube ing you get al the odd
personalities.
Several levels of video out there now.
Lots of video from peoples cell phones. Vertical format. Edison would be
rolling over. But some of it you think if it was done slicker would be less
effective.
A step up or more from cell phone video is DSLR video which from all I can
tell has changed the face of modern cinematography.  I think its the larger
format size but what I don't know about vidoe could fill a book.
A full episode of HOUSE a tv show I used to watch was done using DSLR bodies
and I hear its used for feature film making for certain scenes or whole
films. I maybe the best for getting into dark hard to get to places again I
think its the larger format still cameras have than a real video camera
would have.
I don't have the option now. I not no still cameras with video in them. and
I don't have a video camera any more.  I do have a cell phone though and
made a nice video with it once for my X's birthday.

On 11/19/15 6:28 PM, "Sonny Carter" <sonc.hegr at gmail.com> wrote:

> You've obviously not noticed the half assed Olympus 2005 solution to live view
> on the 240 M.  
> 
> There's only one or two people on the LUG who have shot as much video as I
> have in their lives; to my mind, the Leica is as ergonomic as a trash can is
> for shooting video.  No one has enough hands to use it right.  There are
> several better was to do moving pictures with Leica glass.  By next year, most
> all new TV sets will be 4K, and the HD Leica image just won't cut it, no
> matter the glass.
> 
> If you weren't talking through your hat, you'd already be shooting pure Leica
> video.
> 
> from my iPad
> 
> Sonny Carter
> 
>> On Nov 19, 2015, at 5:08 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote:
>> 
>> People think they know what features they really don't need on a camera they
>> really have little idea especially in this burgeoning digital technology..
>> Its always what you don't think. Other people sure as hell aren't going to
>> know what features I'm going to use or not use on a camera body. If I don't
>> know they sure don't.
>> With no Live View I'd get no focus peaking and 10x magnification.
>> I've never used stuff like this so I'm in to position to say I'd not learn
>> to love them or hate them.  I can say I'd not learn to love them if I had
>> them removed from my camera options to shave off some money off the thing...
>> When I got my digital Nikon D's they had a dozen features I'd not heard of
>> and didn't seem to be a thing I'd need the very same features which later
>> become my favorite parts of the cameras. I think the camera companies do
>> have some idea what we might need to have in a camera when they build one
>> maybe give them the benefit of the doubt and give them a shot before we
>> write them off.. These features.
>> People think pros shoot at manual all the time disabling A and P and S and
>> auto focus. Pros use everything all the time.
>> That little light which turns on and helps your camera focus in very low
>> light? We don't use that.
>> 
>> I'd KILL to be able to shoot live footage with my Leica M glass.
>> I'd love it more than  I'd love an ice cream soda right this very minute.
>> 
>> I'm glad " 'Leica M Photography in its purest form" no longer means CCD
>> sensors because that's vacuous. That's shooting oneself in the foot.
>> Purity of image is great but at the cost of any real camera speed at all
>> forget it.
>> 
>> 
>>> On 11/19/15 4:26 PM, "Peter Klein" <boulanger.croissant at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> If I was in the market for a new color M camera, the 242 would actually
>>> make sense for me. I don't care about video. And while Live View is nice to
>>> have, other cameras do it much better than the 240. So why not save a
>>> little? Two grand is not chicken feed.
>>> 
>>> --Peter
>>> 
>>>> On Thursday, November 19, 2015, Robert Adler <rgacpa at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> So, if you had unlimited funds Mark, you would pay 2k more for features you
>>>> never would use? If so, why? I'm truly curious...
>>>> Best,
>>>> Bob
>>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 11:21 AM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com
>>>> <javascript:;>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Is someone who can gather 5 grand together for a camera not able to
>>>> gather
>>>>> 7?
>>>>> Buying a new M and saving money do not go together. Its not a saving
>>>> money
>>>>> kinds of deal. Its a spending a huge amount  of money kind of deal.
>>>>> Buying an older used M and saving money might make a small amount of
>>>> sense.
>>>>> A every frustrating situation the idea of buying a dumbed down M. Dumbed
>>>>> down for the masses of really stupid rich people who always feel like a
>>>>> buck
>>>>> has to somehow be saved regardless of the consequences. A lot of those
>>>>> around. "what's your BEST PRICE"?!?
>>>> 
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>> 
>> 
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