[Leica] New Monochrome results

[John McMaster]

Live view lets you focus as it will come out on the image. I do not find it
quite as bad as Bob does (I have seen that SD card makes can make a
difference, I use Lexar) but it is far from perfect. I tend to use it with
21mm and wider or the 60R, it can be useful with Noctilii or 75mm Summilux
though...

If I did not have a Monochrom I would have no hesitation in buying the new
one, I do not see enough benefit to me to buy when I have the original.
Hopefully the next generation of M cameras will have better Live View -
response time, refresh rate, resolution, movable focus point and maybe even
DoF guide!

john

-----Original Message-----
From: Ken Carney

Bob,

Here is a Leica-rookie question.  I have seen numerous posts about users
sending bodies and lenses back to Leica to calibrate, to avoid back and
front focus issues.  Is this what live view is intended to avoid?  I know
even my SLR's have focus issues if I don't calibrate the lenses with
in-camera software.  If there is not an issue with matching bodies and
lenses, yes I would prefer to have rangefinder focus (my last Leica long ago
was an M3 with a 35mm Summicron, where it was difficult to make a focus
error though I succeeded at times).  Thx for some enlightenment.

Ken

On 5/24/2015 5:29 PM, Bob Adler wrote:
> Honestly I find live view useless as implemented in the M240. Completely
useless because of the unbelievable shutter lag for non-landscape images and
inability to move the magnified area of the view around to check focus for
landscape work.
>
> For the decisive moment you will need to anticipate an additional 1/2 sec
or more in advance. For landscapes you will need to reframe after focusing.
>
> Sorry, but I never use live view. But I own no R  lenses which it may
actually be useful for per others' experiences I have read.
> Best,
> Bob-The -Grump
>
> Bob Adler
> Robert Adler Photography
> www.robertadlerphotography.com
>
>> On May 24, 2015, at 12:32 PM, George Lottermoser
<george.imagist at icloud.com> wrote:
>>
>> Live view certainly is what keeps me dreaming about the "upgrade;"
>> while feeling quite satisfied with the "high ISO" of the MM I.
>>
>> a note off the iPad, George
>>
>> On May 24, 2015, at 11:54 AM, Doug Herr <wildlightphoto at earthlink.net>
wrote:
>>
>>> The significant upgrade is live view.
>>>
>>> Doug Herr
>>> Birdman of Sacramento
>>> http://www.wildlightphoto.com
>>> http://doug-herr.fineartamerica.com
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Robert Adler <rgacpa at gmail.com>
>>>> Sent: May 24, 2015 8:51 AM
>>>> To: Douglas Nygren <douglasnygren at yahoo.com>, Leica Users Group 
>>>> <lug at leica-users.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] New Monochrome results
>>>>
>>>> Good writeup here by Erwin Puts. Doesn't seem to be worth the $$... 
>>>> Better value with the MM-I 
>>>> http://www.imx.nl/photo/leica/camera/styled-50/
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