[Leica] (SPAM: ?) Re: So much for "film is forever"..

[CJ andS]

The difficulty is no one can predict how technology will change and how
those changes will affect your particular electronic archiving.  You decide
at some point when and how to transfer everything to a new medium, format,
software, etc, and then worry if the transfer will be successful.  The new
model is put everything in the cloud and be happy....we got it.   But there
are no salt mines in electronic archiving.  So what role is the consumer to
play in the cloud?  $$$ I'm sure.

On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 1:21 AM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote:

> I think the fact that while most of us have switched to digital our body of
> work is now (roughly since the year 2000) is in danger is very on topic as
> I
> think its big news where can I sell my digital bodies and re buy back my
> film ones?!?
>
> I'd like to hear a roll count on the LUG of people whose old digital files
> have given up on them or have gotten all wonky. Other side known as digital
> fading.
> I'm being told by you that my digital files are deteriorating I JUST CAN
> SEE
> IT.!!
>
> I don't think when you back up digitally to do it redundantly is the end of
> the world. I used to back up my whole hard disk with floppies. A stack of
> them many inches thick. And I had several sets of them in case one of them
> was bad and for other reasons. It was an automatic process but doable.
> Now its just copying one hard disk to another sometimes a slightly bigger
> one. Can be done in ones sleep.
>
>
> On 5/14/15 7:16 PM, "Spencer Cheng" <spencer at aotera.org> wrote:
>
> > We are going way off topic here so this is my last comment. I did not
> say to
> > store your digital media using microfiche.
> >
> > I am aware of a group of digital archivist (including someone from NIST)
> > working on how to preserve digital media in a standardized fashion.
> >
> > Best practice digital media preservation currently require regular active
> > copying and indefinite transcription of digital media to protect again
> > deterioration of storage media and format obsolescence.
> >
> > If you are not doing both, your stored media is likely to stay ephemeral
> > despite of what you believe.
> >
> > Mark, do as you wish but 1’s magically becomes 0’s in digital media
> whether
> > you believe it’s going to happen or not. Good Luck.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Spencer
> >
> >> On May 14, 2015, at 16:17, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> From the Library of Congress  (USA)
> >> "Does the Library of Congress recommend microfilming or digitization for
> >> reformatting institutional collections?....
> >>
> >> " That said, the end of microfilming is near, despite it's relatively
> low
> >> cost and the several hundred year projected lifetime of preservation
> film.
> >> The National Endowment for the Humanities no longer funds grants for
> >> microfilming and microfilm readers are increasingly difficult to
> maintain
> >> and service."
> >>
> >> http://www.loc.gov/preservation/about/faqs/reformatting.html#prescopy
> >>
> >> Recognizing Digitization as a Preservation Reformatting Method
> >> http://chnm.gmu.edu/digitalhistory/links/pdf/preserving/8_34a.pdf
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 5/14/15 1:17 AM, "Spencer Cheng" <spencer at aotera.org> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Canadian Archive uses microfiche which are stable for 100+ years (or
> >>> acid-free
> >>> paper for documents). The Canadian census was stored that way. ³was²
> because
> >>> I
> >>> am not sure we have a real census any more.
> >>
> >> Digital storage is very
> >>> ephemeral. I doubt if most digital storage will last more than 10
> years.
> >>> Those
> >>> 1¹s randomly change to 0¹s far too frequently. I don¹t think archivist
> like
> >>> digital media very much.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Spencer
> >>
> >>
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