[Leica] Be a photographer

Thu May 7 05:52:08 PDT 2015

You crack me up Ted!

Maybe we should do background checks on them!

On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 12:44 AM, Ted Grant <tedgrant at shaw.ca> wrote:

> Excuse me, let's get this straight!!!! I'm THE last person/photographer in
> the world to disparage any one who is a "real photographer!" PERIOD!
>
> If I've aimed at anybody it's the millions and millions of button pusher
> "pseudo iphone characters who flaunt their nickel & dime images for nothing
> while calling themselves "PHOTOGRAPHER!" When they have absolutely no or
> very nearly no photographic knowledge nor experience! And yes there are
> many
> who use an iphone and are 'MAGNIFICENT FOR REAL PHOTOGRAPHERS!" These
> shooters are not included in my comment!
>
> So if anyone has a problem, get over it!  Good bye!
> ted
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+tedgrant=shaw.ca at leica-users.org] On Behalf
> Of
> Sonny Carter
> Sent: May-06-15 4:05 PM
> To: Leica Users Group
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Be a photographer
>
> Having paid my dues in the trenches of news photography, I can agree with
> much of what you say, Ted.
>
> However, I'd never disparage the guys out there shooting for the love of
> shooting.
>
> I know astronomers, radio producers, hunting guides, naval officers, the
> list goes on and on of people who have a day job and spend "time off" out
> there shooting.
>
> No paycheck. Our LUG is full of them.  I'm just happy to have had the
> chance
> to get paid for it for awhile, and even today to get an occasional
> assignment.
>
> Little of my work can be called Street, but most of Jim's, Lluis', and
> Tina's can be.  I look at lots of photography, and there's so great stuff
> out there, and I often see stuff I wish I had sot.
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> Sonny Carter
> http://www.SonC.com/look
>
>
> > On May 6, 2015, at 5:34 PM, Ted Grant <tedgrant at shaw.ca> wrote:
> >
> > Sonny Carter OFFERED:
> > Subject: Re: [Leica] Be a photographer
> >
> > "Documentary photography and journalism is a thing which goes way back."
> > When I got my first job taking pictures (1965), we were called "news
> > photographers."
> >
> > Did not matter if we were shooting for a newspaper, wire service, or TV.
> > Sometimes "news cameramen"   (that went away when more women came into
> the
> > job.)
> >
> > They like to call themselves "Photo-Journalist" these days.
> >
> > I do believe there's a fine but perceptible difference between a "Street
> Photographer" and a "News Photographer"
> >
> > It is called "paycheck."<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
> > =======================================================
> >
> > Hi Sonny,
> > When I began "shooting for a newspaper, Sept. 17/ 1951 first news photo
> published front page of the Ottawa Citizen newspaper in Canada's capital. I
> was always "VERY PROUD" of being called and calling myself a...
> "NEWS-PHOTOGRAPHER"! I saw and felt it was a kind of badge of honour to be
> called one for quite a number of years and working for and being paid by
> the
> "NEWSPAPER!"  YOU BELONGED TO A NEWS ORGANIZATION AND WERE BEING PAID FOR
> WORKING AS A NEWS PHOTOGRAPHER!!
> >
> > Then somehow that wasn't good enough for some of the news lads and they
> became.... "PHOTOJOURNALISTS!" Even though their assignments maybe a few
> daily news paper shoots each day and rarely any in-depth assignments.
> >
> > Oh well to each his own moniker!  By then my career had moved a major
> step
> or two in relation to owning and operating my own company and shooting for
> a
> great number of clients. So not working for newspapers any longer. I became
> a "Photojournalist!"
> >
> > "As in someone who shot month long or longer documentaries and magazine
> type photo essays, short documentaries and many major sports events,
> OLYMPICS, summer & winter, Commonwealth Games, Pan-Am Games involving North
> & South America continents. And an endless number of well paying clients in
> many many avenues of the required photographic world!
> >
> > But those today and during the past few years whom refer to themselves as
> "STREET PHOTOGRAPHERS?" are a joke! Most have never ever shot a "PAYING
> ASSIGNMENT IN THEIR LIVES!" Quite simply because they're not real
> photographers in the first place! And pure dumb luck that they catch a good
> photo moment let alone being paid for same! If it ever happens?
> >
> > By the same token as this topic is evolving into a babbelfest really
> going
> nowhere. However interesting in a historical vain. I thought I'd throw in
> "A
> real life story" in the real world of being a news photographer! Or
> photojournalist. Certainly when it was marvellous to be a photog and
> working! BUT most importantly .......... "BEING PAID, BECAUSE YOU WERE A
> "REAL PHOTOGRAPHER!"  ;-)
> >
> > cheers,
> > Dr. ted  :-)
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Regards,

Sonny
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Natchitoches, Louisiana
1714
Oldest Permanent Settlement in the Louisiana Purchase

USA