[Leica] Be a photographer

Wed May 6 09:12:19 PDT 2015

I should have said that your right.
The people who've been documenting the human conditions all this time have
been news photographers. The ones who've come up with fancier names for
themselves have perhaps been the ones working on a more amateur level.
Serious photogs but not really making money at it. Those were the ones doing
documentary or reportage photography.
I'm afraid this new "street" word which has popped up when I was looking the
other way just connotes to me "hipsters".
Hipsters living in Brooklyn with alternate ideas of camera gear who do more
than just shooting their kids opening holiday presents with their
interesting cameras. They put it on their Blog.

On 5/6/15 11:36 AM, "Sonny Carter" <sonc.hegr at gmail.com> wrote:

> "Documentary photography and journalism is a thing which goes way back."

When
> I got my first job taking pictures (1965), we were called
> "news
photographers."

Did not matter if we were shooting for a newspaper,
> wire service, or TV.

Sometimes "news cameramen"   (that went away when more
> women came into the
job.)

They like to call themselves "Photo-Journalist"
> these days.

I do believe there's a fine but perceptible difference between a
> "Street
Photographer" and a "News Photographer"

It is called "paycheck."

On
> Wed, May 6, 2015 at 9:52 AM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote:

>
> Richard I started this and I'd not take it personally I'm not aware of it>
> having anything to do with any post you'd make
> My latest thing on this is
> this.
> Yesterday I Wiki'd HCB.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henri_Cartier-Bresson
> Look at the first
> sentence.
> Henri Cartier-Bresson (French: [kaʁtje bʁɛsɔ̃]; August 22, 1908 –
> August 3,
> 2004) was a French photographer considered to be the father of
>
> photojournalism. He was the master of candid photography and an early user
>
> of 35 mm film. He helped develop the street photography or life reportage>
> style, and coined the term, The Decisive Moment, that has inspired
>
> generations of photographers ever since.
>
> Click on " life reportage " its a
> hyperlink so it takes you to a different
> page. That different page is
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Street_photography
> There is no reportage page
>
> On that page do a search for "reportage"
> You won't get jack.
> And there is
> no reportage page.
> Reportage is a term that wedding photographers use now
> who want to sound
> hip
> and French.
>
> When I was in school in the early to
> mid 70's the head of our Media
> department was a Documentary guy. He did more
> motion footage than stills
> but
> still.
> We were all steeped in reportage
> this and reportage that.
> The word "street" was really never used. I do think
> it took a few more
> years
> to catch on in the late 70's early 80's.
>
> I do
> think the word "street" is vague because its referring to photography
> done
> of the human condition and plenty of of that happens indoors:
> Not on
> streets.
> In the forest.
> In the sky.
> On top of mountains.
> So I for one
> think this abandoning of the word  "reportage"  or documentary
> for "street"
> is a bit arbitrarily inane. Its part of a smug mindset of
> vagueness which is
> going on now. To pretend to communicate when the
> opposite
> is really going
> on.
> Documentary photography and journalism is a thing which goes way back.
> Why
> forget about it and turn it into some hip buzzword?
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On
> 5/5/15 10:30 PM, "Sonny Carter" <sonc.hegr at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > The side
> effect of stuff like that is that some people get exposed to
> learnin'
> >
> ,
> >
> > Sometimes, it doesn't take.
> >
> > from my iPad
> >
> > Sonny
> Carter
> >
> >> On May 5, 2015, at 8:04 PM, Richard Man
> <richard at richardmanphoto.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> What is with all these
> debates about "street photography?" I hope my
> side
> >> comment about
> David's book being one of the best "street photography"
> books
> >> did not
> contribute to yet another waste-of-electrons.
> >>
> >> Lets not get hung up
> on names etc. Just do photography :-)
> >>
> >>> On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 7:21
> AM, Sonny Carter <sonc.hegr at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Which refers to
> this article from 2001:
> >>>
> >>>
> https://luminous-landscape.com/the-photographer-at-auteur/
> >>>
> >>>> On
> Tue, May 5, 2015 at 9:19 AM, Sonny Carter <sonc.hegr at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> "Online Photographer"  Mike Johnston writing about
> Street Photographer
> >>>> Johnny Deadman back in 2005 about some work "a
> couple years ago"
> >>>>
> >>>>
> http://theonlinephotographer.blogspot.com/2005/11/deadman-update.html
> >>>>
>
> >>>>
> >>>> That ought to give you fodder for another rant.  ;-)
> >>>>
>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Regards,
> >>>>
> >>>> Sonny
> >>>>
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> >>>
> >>>
>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Regards,
> >>>
> >>> Sonny
> >>> http://sonc.com/look/
>
> >>> Natchitoches, Louisiana
> >>> 1714
> >>> Oldest Permanent Settlement in
> the Louisiana Purchase
> >>>
> >>> USA
> >>>
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