[Leica] New M(246) Outputs 12 bit Files

Wed May 6 06:30:32 PDT 2015

They could give  you the option which is common and I have with my D700 of
12-bit vs. 14-bit so you can go for speed or quality. I always have it set
for all thing quality.

Richard thanks on that I knew bit depth was not dependent on format it just
struck me that the medium format backs give you larger bit depth options
typically. Like 16 bits (65,536 levels per channel).  I don't think there is
16 bits in 24x26 ff.

On 5/5/15 11:10 PM, "Jim Nichols" <jhnichols at lighttube.net> wrote:

> Wouldn't it also affect write speeds?  What if Leica puts more value on
> speed than on bit depths?
> 
> Jim Nichols
> Tullahoma, TN USA
> 
> On 5/5/2015 10:04 PM, Doug Herr wrote:
>> Sometimes the published bit depth has more to do with marketing than anything
>> else.
>> 
>> Doug Herr
>> Birdman of Sacramento
>> http://www.wildlightphoto.com
>> http://doug-herr.fineartamerica.com
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Richard Man <richard at richardmanphoto.com>
>>> Sent: May 5, 2015 6:01 PM
>>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] New M(246) Outputs 12 bit Files
>>> 
>>> The "bit-depth" is not dependent on the format. If 12 bits is good enough
>>> for 35mm sensor, then it would be good enough for medium format sensor, and
>>> vice versa.
>>> 
>>> Note that I have not said what I think personally on the technical merits.
>>> I am just giving out the perspective that the decision is almost certainly
>>> financial related rather than based on technical analysis.
>>> 
>>> On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 5:49 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> 16 bit it says on this phase one achromatic plus monochrome but medium
>>>> format seems to have more bits involved or am I wrong?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 5/5/15 8:01 PM, "Bob Adler" <rgacpa at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> No doubt PhaseOne came to the same conclusion...
>>>>> http://www.achromaticplus.com/Achromatic_Plus/The_Back.html
>>>>> 
>>>>> not...
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 4:37 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> I think what will happen is they will put two large prints up side by
>>>> side
>>>>>> one with the old 14 bit camera and the other with the new 12 bit and the
>>>>>> new
>>>>>> camera will of course blow the old one right out of the water these
>>>> people
>>>>>> did not wake up one morning all of a sudden stupid.
>>>>>> The interesting thing will be what the mitigating factors might be and
>>>> how
>>>>>> they are put in place.
>>>>>> Is bit depth less of an issue with only one channel than three? (RGB)
>>>>>> Whatever it is the proof will be  in the pudding and they've already see
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> tasted the  pudding. They'll give us a taste when they get around to it.
>>>>>> But
>>>>>> I do think plenty of people will be blown over by rather large glowing
>>>>>> monochrome prints from this camera which will be a life changing
>>>>>> experience.
>>>>>> A new paradigm creating kind of thing. And we'll see those soon.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 5/5/15 12:12 PM, "Bob Adler" <rgacpa at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I don't think you need to sign it. It's open for all to view. A longer
>>>>>> way
>>>>>>> to get there is:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Go to www.getdpi.com you will see Jono Slacks article about the new
>>>>>>> Monochrom. Then click on the getDPI Forums.
>>>>>>> Then scroll down to the Leica link
>>>>>>> Post #47 under The New Monochrom - a fine report
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hope this helps...
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 9:01 AM, Steve Barbour <steve.barbour at gmail.com
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On May 5, 2015, at 8:58 AM, Tina Manley <tmanley at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> This webpage is not available
>>>>>>>> it is available, perhaps you have to sign in some-how.....
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Tina
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 11:32 AM, Robert Adler <rgacpa at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> See post #46 by Jono Slack:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>> http://www.getdpi.com/forum/leica/54592-new-monochrom-fine-report.html#post
>>>> 63
>>>>>>>> 9690
>>>>>>>>>> Curiouser and curiouser...
>>>>>>>>>> 
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