[Leica] Shoot less... ?

[John McMaster]

That is in one area of photography. I did quite a bit of work on studio car photography in the mid-90s; there it was set camera up, dress and light the set (tungsten) and take a single 10"x8" shot. Process that shot and adjust lighting, exposure etc as required then shoot 3 or 4 sheets (the same) if happy. Split processing across different runs for safety. For detail shots quite common to have three or so sets on the go at the same time but all done the same way. Expensive photographer/background artists and a small film bill ;-)

john

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From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+john=mcmaster.co.nz at leica-users.org] On Behalf Of Mark Rabiner
Sent: Tuesday, 24 March 2015 12:36 p.m.
To: Leica Users Group
Subject: Re: [Leica] Shoot less... ?

Sometimes the way it works Steve is you're talking with art directors or clients and its on the table that you're going to be shooting around ten rolls. Photographers charge by the roll I charged 25 dollars a roll so they want an idea of how many rolls you are going to be shooting.
You'd love to think the art directors or clients are not going to discuss with you what cameras you are going to use and have the sense to leave it up to you but unless you are a famous photographers they often do.
And the discussion could be you are shooting ten 35mm rolls.
But now all of a sudden they are talking about more of as quality thing. You are maybe thinking down the line of large display prints and maybe square format so maybe you'll  shoot it in medium format.
Since I'm shooting it in medium format lets remember that that's less exposures to choose from. Are they going to care? Does it come up in the conversation? Does it change the quote?
In some cases maybe on most cases not.
By the way Steve this is not my quirky opinion I just came up with its my direct expeornce of 30 years in professional photography.
You can shoot ten rolls with the Hasselblad or ten rolls with the Nikon in most cases no ones worrying about how many exposures are being shot.
They just want to know you think you're going to end up with twenty good images In most of my quotes if I'm shooting medium format I didn't budget in more rolls to make up for the fact that there was less on a roll. And I don't think my photog friends did either for the most part. For the most part a roll is a roll. And I think its very cool some people like you don't know that. But please don't let me change your entrenched opinions.



On 3/23/15 6:59 PM, "Mark Rabiner" <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote:

> Thanks Steve you're a love and don't ever change your mind.
> 
> 
> On 3/23/15 6:49 PM, "Steve Barbour" <steve.barbour at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> 
> On Mar 23, 2015, at 1:57 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote:
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>> 
> I'm saying here Steve that when you shoot larger format you shoot less
>
>> exposures and no one complains.


4 images is four images, rabs.




geeze
>> does it never stopŠ


s



> 
> 
> On 3/23/15 6:12 AM, "Steve Barbour"
>> <steve.barbour at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> Steve
>> Barbour
>> 
>> On Mar 23, 2015, at 3:03 AM, Frank Dernie 
>> <Frank.Dernie at btinternet.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I have never heard of
>> photographers considering their work by the acreage of film they use 
>> rather than the number of worthwhile results they get. Is this 
>> common?
>> 
>>
>> Good
>> question, I am familiar with the idea..."it"s not what you shoot, 
>> it"s
>>
>> what
>> you show" and the usual tendency of photographers to underestimate 
>> the
>>
>> number of frames they exposed,,,
>> 
>> s
>> 
>>> On 21 Mar, 2015, at 20:14,
>> Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> A dozen sheets of 8x10
>> equal 144 shots with a Rolleiflex or Hasselblad.
>>> 432 shots with in 35mm.
>> Also par for the course. A very common occurrence.
>>> 
>>> I shot 10 rolls a
>> pro pack of Delta 100 of one model once in a few hours.
>>> So I had 360
>> chances to get it right.
>>> That was the most concentrated I ever got.
>>>
>> My
>> Balcars afterwards were quite warm. But they cooled down in time.
>>> I
>> needed
>> a cold shower for sure.
>>