[Leica] (SPAM: ?) Re: (SPAM: ?) Re: (SPAM: ?) Re: Photo show dissent

[Mark Rabiner]

I got this from The Autobiography of Ansel Adams. I see here its date is
1985. 
And he died in 1984.
This gave him time to spend the next year writing his Autobiography.


On 3/23/15 9:50 AM, "Ken Carney" <kcarney1 at cox.net> wrote:

> As I recall Ansel's posters were being laser printed while he was still
alive,
> and that was the basis for his prediction.

Ken

On 3/22/2015 9:36 PM, Mark
> Rabiner wrote:
> AA specifically mentioned "laser beams".
> He thought a
> printing process would come about with laser beams. And they'd
> use that to
> make better prints of his neg than he did with his darkroom.
> They'd look at
> AA's darkroom prints as a reference of course.
>  
> I think the point is if
> you are smart you know you have no idea what's going
> to happen and there is
> an option to consider your negs a living thing to be
> further explored.
> I
> have mixed feelings about if your "work " is you negs or your prints.
> I'm
> feeling know they are very much both.
>
>
> On 3/22/15 8:44 PM, "Ken Carney"
> <kcarney1 at cox.net> wrote:
>
>> Not really tongue in cheek.  AA left all of his
> negatives with the
>> thought that future generations might be able to print
> them better with
>> new technology (as opposed to Brett Weston who destroyed
> most all of
>> his).  Gene Smith might have thought that Dr. Schweitzer needed
> a few
>> more natives behind him, I don't know...
>>
>> Ken
>>
>> On 3/22/2015
> 6:34 PM, Richard Man wrote:
>>> I presume you might be speaking tongue in
> cheek, but St. Adam and Gene
>>> Smith would have loved photoshop. They would
> do it as much as possible
>>> without post processing, but to say they
> wouldn't use the best available
>>> tools would be silly.
>>> On Mar 22, 2015
> 3:44 PM, "Ken Carney" <kcarney1 at cox.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Can you imagine Ansel
> with Photoshop, or Gene Smith?  Well, crap, that
>>>> darkroom fire burned the
> top part of my Half Dome neg but I can fix it in
>>>> post...
>>>>
>>>>
> Ken
>>>>
>>>> On 3/22/2015 3:59 PM, Chris Crawford wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Larry,
> that¹s a bigoted and historically unsupportable view. Photographers
>>>>> have
> combined images to make totally conceptual scenes since the 19th
>>>>>
> century, most famously by Jerry Uelsmann starting in the 1960s and
>>>>>
> continuing to the present day. Ansel Adams famously stated that the
>>>>>
> negative was like a musical score, a starting point that the artist uses
>>>>>
> to produce the final performance (the print).
>>>>>
>>>>> Art and photography
> are most certainly NOT two different media.
>>>>> Photography is an art media,
> one of many, including painting, sculpture,
>>>>> ceramics, drawing, and
> graphic printmaking (eg. Etching, lithography).
>>>>> There is a lot of
> overlap, these are not absolutely separate art forms.
>>>>> The painter,
> sculptor and printmaker incorporate drawing into their work.
>>>>> The
> printmaker can transfer photos to the etching plate. Photographers can
>>>>>
> paint and draw on the photo, or manipulate it on the computer, and
>>>>>
> computer graphics can be purely drawing without using photos.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
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