[Leica] (SPAM: ?) Re: Photo show dissent

[Dante Stella]

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Dante

> On Mar 22, 2015, at 10:36 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote:
> 
> AA specifically mentioned "laser beams".
> He thought a printing process would come about with laser beams. And they'd
> use that to make better prints of his neg than he did with his darkroom.
> They'd look at AA's darkroom prints as a reference of course.
> 
> I think the point is if you are smart you know you have no idea what's going
> to happen and there is an option to consider your negs a living thing to be
> further explored.
> I have mixed feelings about if your "work " is you negs or your prints.
> I'm feeling know they are very much both.
> 
> 
>> On 3/22/15 8:44 PM, "Ken Carney" <kcarney1 at cox.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Not really tongue in cheek.  AA left all of his negatives with the
>> thought that future generations might be able to print them better with
>> new technology (as opposed to Brett Weston who destroyed most all of
>> his).  Gene Smith might have thought that Dr. Schweitzer needed a few
>> more natives behind him, I don't know...
>> 
>> Ken
>> 
>>> On 3/22/2015 6:34 PM, Richard Man wrote:
>>> I presume you might be speaking tongue in cheek, but St. Adam and Gene
>>> Smith would have loved photoshop. They would do it as much as possible
>>> without post processing, but to say they wouldn't use the best available
>>> tools would be silly.
>>>> On Mar 22, 2015 3:44 PM, "Ken Carney" <kcarney1 at cox.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Can you imagine Ansel with Photoshop, or Gene Smith?  Well, crap, that
>>>> darkroom fire burned the top part of my Half Dome neg but I can fix it in
>>>> post...
>>>> 
>>>> Ken
>>>> 
>>>>> On 3/22/2015 3:59 PM, Chris Crawford wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Larry, that¹s a bigoted and historically unsupportable view. Photographers
>>>>> have combined images to make totally conceptual scenes since the 19th
>>>>> century, most famously by Jerry Uelsmann starting in the 1960s and
>>>>> continuing to the present day. Ansel Adams famously stated that the
>>>>> negative was like a musical score, a starting point that the artist uses
>>>>> to produce the final performance (the print).
>>>>> 
>>>>> Art and photography are most certainly NOT two different media.
>>>>> Photography is an art media, one of many, including painting, sculpture,
>>>>> ceramics, drawing, and graphic printmaking (eg. Etching, lithography).
>>>>> There is a lot of overlap, these are not absolutely separate art forms.
>>>>> The painter, sculptor and printmaker incorporate drawing into their work.
>>>>> The printmaker can transfer photos to the etching plate. Photographers can
>>>>> paint and draw on the photo, or manipulate it on the computer, and
>>>>> computer graphics can be purely drawing without using photos.
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