[Leica] (SPAM: ?) Re: Photo show dissent

[Mark Rabiner]

Photoshop = Darkroom,  Ken.
Both Ansel and Smith were no strangers to the darkroom.
They thrived in there. It was the center of their worlds.
Photoshop can also do airbrush. But its not its main thing.
A lot of people who use Photoshop never learn how to do the tricky stuff.

We have to stop marginalizing the name of our modern digital darkroom.
And the name of our modern digital darkroom is Photoshop.
Its a good thing. Not a bad thing. Its a basic thing. Its a necessarily
thing. We had to make our image the right exposure, contrast and color.
Sharpen it so it looks right and even like in the darkroom do local
controls. We have to crop it so it looks the best. We have to save it to the
best file format.
When you "Shop" an image it means you developed it in your darkroom.
Not stolen its integrity by spraying it with digital pigment. Not copied
elements of another image into it.

And most of you guys use LightRoom fine, close enough.
.



On 3/22/15 6:44 PM, "Ken Carney" <kcarney1 at cox.net> wrote:

> Can you imagine Ansel with Photoshop, or Gene Smith?  Well, crap, that
> darkroom fire burned the top part of my Half Dome neg but I can fix it
> in post...
> 
> Ken
> 
> On 3/22/2015 3:59 PM, Chris Crawford wrote:
>> Larry, that¹s a bigoted and historically unsupportable view. Photographers
>> have combined images to make totally conceptual scenes since the 19th
>> century, most famously by Jerry Uelsmann starting in the 1960s and
>> continuing to the present day. Ansel Adams famously stated that the
>> negative was like a musical score, a starting point that the artist uses
>> to produce the final performance (the print).
>> 
>> Art and photography are most certainly NOT two different media.
>> Photography is an art media, one of many, including painting, sculpture,
>> ceramics, drawing, and graphic printmaking (eg. Etching, lithography).
>> There is a lot of overlap, these are not absolutely separate art forms.
>> The painter, sculptor and printmaker incorporate drawing into their work.
>> The printmaker can transfer photos to the etching plate. Photographers can
>> paint and draw on the photo, or manipulate it on the computer, and
>> computer graphics can be purely drawing without using photos.
>> 
> 
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