[Leica] ***SPAM*** Re: Tina's softness/sharpness/focus issue - might be solved, in part

[Aram Langhans]

I for one am really shocked at the hard time that Tina, one of the 
absolutely best photographers here, is getting from the LUG.  I get her 
point.  I try to be helpful, mostly off list.  It is nice to have extra eyes 
to tell you which photos are worth putting the extra effort in to make them 
marketable, which is her profession.

As far as Richard's comments, to always show your best, that does have some 
truth to it, but then again, I guess it depends on what the LUG is all 
about.  Is it a showcase, or is it a learning tool? I guess it is a bit of 
both.  I do both, I guess.  Friday flowers, Saturday Signs, Weird Wednesday 
are showcase events, even though many ask for comments.  But I also show 
shots that I am expecting to get some feedback on, and they are maybe not my 
best, but are an experiment that I want a different set of eyes on to get a 
less biased opinion.  Is it strong in composition?  Is there a deficiency in 
technique?  B&W or color, which I do think is a very valid question for some 
who work mainly in one medium.  If everybody liked the same thing, it would 
be a very boring world, though there would be less arguments taking place.

So, I comment on her photos when I have something constructive to say about 
things that are not monitor dependent, but most of all I just enjoy 
traveling with her, and others, to far away places that I will never see, 
except through the eyes of VERY talented photographers like Tina.

Keep them coming, Tina.  I am enjoying the trip.

Aram


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From: "Tina Manley" <tmanley at gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, March 20, 2015 7:16 PM
To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org>
Subject: Re: [Leica] ***SPAM*** Re: Tina's softness/sharpness/focus issue - 
might be solved, in part

> If I knew my best, I would not need comments and suggestions.
>
> Tina
>
> On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 10:12 PM, Richard Man 
> <richard at richardmanphoto.com>
> wrote:
>
>> If there is one thing I learn over the years. ALWAYS only show your best,
>> if for comments and suggestions.
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 7:02 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > I don't even know if I like a pic unless I fine tune it first. I'm not
>> shy
>> > about cropping and very few pix don't need some real contrast and
>> exposure
>> > tweaking. And color tweaking. And there will be dark areas which need 
>> > to
>> be
>> > brought up and overly light areas which will need to be brought down.
>> > Just like darkroom work. Only with a lot more precision.
>> > Speaking for myself again I'm not comfortable for people to be seeing 
>> > non
>> > edited and non tweaked work. Because its not my work yet till its
>> finished.
>> >
>> >
>> > On 3/20/15 9:52 AM, "Tina Manley" <tmanley at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > > But I explained when I started posting these Cuba photos that they
>> would
>> > not
>> > > be finished products.  The careful crafting will come after the
>> > editing, I
>> > > hope.  The editing is what I need help with.  These unfinished
>> > photos are
>> > > posted on pBase which is more like a sketchpad to me.  Many will
>> > be deleted.
>> > > The good ones that are eventually finished will be posted on
>> > my website, if I
>> > > live that long.  If I had posted carefully crafted
>> > finished photos, I would
>> > > not need help.  And I would never get through the
>> > editing.
>> >
>> > Tina
>> >
>> > On Fri, Mar
>> > > 20, 2015 at 9:44 AM, philippe.amard <philippe.amard at sfr.fr>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > >
>> > > Le 20
>> > > mars 15 à 14:09, Tina Manley a écrit :
>> > >
>> > >  maybe I should just not post them
>> > > at all.
>> > >>
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Probably! It would show more consideration for some of us
>> > > who tried in
>> > > earnest to help you.
>> > >
>> > > Jay posts a picture a day after his
>> > > trips, each of them has been carefully
>> > > crafted before sending.
>> > > Many others
>> > > here do that too, Lluis, Geoff, Richard, or George to name but
>> > > a few.
>> > >
>> > > I
>> > > won't fall in that trap again either.
>> > >
>> > > case closed
>> > >
>> > > Philippe
>> > >
>> > >
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>> > >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Tina
>> > > Manley
>> > www.tinamanley.com
>> > tina-manley.artistwebsites.com
>> > http://www.alamy.com/
>> > > stock-photography/3B49552F-90A0-4D0A-A11D-2175C937AA91/Tina+Manley.html
>> >
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>>
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>>
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>
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> www.tinamanley.com
> tina-manley.artistwebsites.com
> http://www.alamy.com/stock-photography/3B49552F-90A0-4D0A-A11D-2175C937AA91/Tina+Manley.html
>
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