[Leica] How many times have Leica died or will die?

[FRANK DERNIE]

No. I am not a professional gambler.



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> From: Richard Man <richard at richardmanphoto.com>
>To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> 
>Sent: Friday, 6 March 2015, 7:20
>Subject: Re: [Leica] How many times have Leica died or will die?
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>Were you the one that bought Leica stock when it was low and benefited when
>it shot up during the M9 run?
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>On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 11:17 PM, Frank Dernie <Frank.Dernie at btinternet.com>
>wrote:
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>> It seems obvious to me that there will always be a tiny number of people
>> for whom a Leica will be the correct choice. At this tiny production volume
>> they will be expensive. Assuming increasing production capability will
>> increase profitability is a not uncommon mistake.
>> I have been pessimistic for the future of Leica ever since venture
>> capitalists got involved. They do not take a long term view. They are
>> rapists (IMHO).
>> Rolls-Royce cars used to have a 2 year wait for a new one, and dealers
>> would only accept orders from people who already had one. This kept second
>> hand prices sky high (above list), and it made complete sense for a wealthy
>> individual to buy a new one every year since, apart form the capital tied
>> up, it was cheap motoring. Probably not as good a car as a S-class
>> Mercedes, but very much cheaper to own.
>> Some bright spark convinced them to increase production to satisfy demand.
>> Once the second hand value collapsed, then the astute people who used to
>> run one stopped. The company went bust and ended up being sold to BMW who
>> continue to make "Rolls-Royces" in small numbers at huge prices.
>> This is the first time I have been genuinely concerned for the future of
>> Leica.
>>
>>
>> > On 6 Mar, 2015, at 06:58, Richard Man <richard at richardmanphoto.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Of course it's different each time of course Leica must change. Every
>> > company must change and adapt....
>> >
>> > On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 10:37 PM, Frank Filippone <red735i at verizon.net>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> It will be ... different.....
>> >>
>> >> Leica must change with the user demand.  ( Remember the M8?)
>> >>
>> >> Frank Filippone
>> >> Red735i at verizon.net
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+red735i=verizon.net at leica-users.org] On
>> >> Behalf
>> >> Of Richard Man
>> >> Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2015 10:21 PM
>> >> To: Leica Users Group
>> >> Subject: [Leica] How many times have Leica died or will die?
>> >>
>> >> It's notably that Apple at 2000, was dying. So bad that Steve Job had to
>> >> bargained with his nemesis, Bill Gates. Since 1984, many epitaphs have
>> been
>> >> written for Apple. In 2015, Apple is now the largest company in the
>> world
>> >> (*cautious people always jump in and say - for now - *).
>> >>
>> >> Wasn't Leica in trouble in the late 40s until they came out with the
>> Leica
>> >> M3?
>> >>
>> >> Wasn't Leica "close to death" in the 70s with the onslaught of the SLR
>> >> (without the 'd')?
>> >>
>> >> Didn't Leica become irrelevant in the mid 2000s because everyone has
>> gone
>> >> digital?
>> >>
>> >> Leica may be gone by end of 2015, or may be it will surprise everyone
>> >> again.
>> >> We shall see...
>> >>
>> >> --
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