[Leica] Prints are way too dark. Driven to distraction

[Leowesson]

Sorry, it ain't supposed to work that way.  Ya'll are doing something wrong.  

Leo Wesson
leowesson.com

> On Mar 1, 2015, at 16:28, Robert Adler <rgacpa at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I now have 2 monitors: I have one darkened to match print output (I am
> actually trying to have a different profile on that monitor for the paper
> that I use) and one to work on for web viewing. I initially process for web
> viewing. I find that most times a simple pulling up on the middle of the
> curve adjustment in CC or LR works just fine for prints. Sometimes it gets
> more complicated.
> Bob
> 
>> On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 1:23 PM, Aram Langhans <leica_r8 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Similar. I noticed that, too.   No matter how I calibrate the monitor, the
>> prints are always darker than the monitor.  Whether I was printing myself,
>> or using Costso.  Since two outputs were giving me the same results, my
>> input must be at fault.  So, then, I learned a few years ago to turn the
>> monitor down.  I downloaded Color HCFR and got it to work with my Spyder
>> and found out the monitor was WAY to bright.  The profile software for
>> Spyder did not adjust the monitor brightness.  I had to turn my monitor
>> (Dell 1224 IPS) down to 17 to get to the recommended brightness.  It looks
>> pretty dark compared to my other monitor, but it works.  Prints are dead on
>> from monitor to my printer (R3000) or to Costco.  The trend in consumer
>> monitors seems to be bright and saturated, but that does not translate to a
>> standard print file, evidentially.
>> 
>> so, try getting the HCFR Colorimeter program and see if you can get it to
>> work on your Monki.  The crank that monitor brightness down.
>> 
>> Aram
>> 
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Robert Adler" <rgacpa at gmail.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2015 4:02 PM
>> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Prints are way too dark. Driven to distraction
>> 
>> 
>> Personally, I don't think your missing anything Lew. Even though these
>>> calibrations are supposed to calibrate for "luminance", I tend to turn my
>>> monitor down 2-4 stops to match a standard calibration chart that I've
>>> printed on my printer. Then I adjust in CC or LR on a monitor that has
>>> been
>>> darkened by the above process. Seems really dumb, but it works...
>>> Best,
>>> Bob
>>> PS-Please let me know if you find out differently!
>>> 
>>> On Sat, Feb 28, 2015 at 2:02 PM, Lew Schwartz <lew1716 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I'm printing on Epson Proofing, using LR 5.7, Epson 4880, ViewSonic
>>>> monitor
>>>> and I've just re-profiled monitor and printer using colormunki, plus I
>>>> confirm that both monitor and printer are using the new profiles. The
>>>> resulting prints are aprox 2- 4 stops too dark. Too dark is an on going
>>>> problem for me, LR, the 4880 and this monitor; I expected things to get
>>>> better after the colormunki stuff. I've just been winging a solution in
>>>> the
>>>> past by using the exposure control in the LR develop module and the
>>>> brightness setting in the print module. Not a great solution, but
>>>> workable.
>>>> Now, with these new profiles, I'm not even close. WTF? Things are way
>>>> worse. What am I missing?
>>>> 
>>>> -Lew Schwartz
>>>> 
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
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>>> www.robertadlerphotography.com
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