[Leica] The Q Leica

Wed Jun 10 18:49:39 PDT 2015

The Sony A7 was about the same size as an Olympus OM-D.
And its gorgeous.
An OM-D is not just  a cropped camera like your plain vanilla 1.5 crop.
It's a 2x crop.
Maitani would be turning over in his grave. If he's dead.

On 6/10/15 9:39 PM, "Mark Rabiner" <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote:

> Looks like Sony is in the camera biz on the long fun too! Its not just Walkman
> any more. MP3 Players.  This a high rez body. But with a host of innovations
> which will take awhile to all sink in.
> I admit to being thrilled with watching footage from it  " It is the world¹s
> first digital camera to offer this in-camera full-frame format 4K recording
> capacity"
> Of course for some here the main attraction is its accepting other lenses from
> other companies other than Cosina made Zeiss. Like Leica made Leica.
> 
> 
> On 6/10/15 2:44 PM, "Doug Herr" <wildlightphoto at earthlink.net> wrote:
> 
>> Meanwhile Sony has announced the a7rII, w/ a7II form factor, 42MP BSI sensor,
>> PDAF, silent mode shutter and 5-axis stabilization (3-axis for non-native
>> lenses) about $3200, shipping in August.
>> 
>> Doug Herr
>> Birdman of Sacramento
>> http://www.wildlightphoto.com
>> http://doug-herr.fineartamerica.com
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Scott Gregory <scottgregory at mac.com>
>>> Sent: Jun 10, 2015 11:35 AM
>>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] The Q Leica
>>> 
>>> Mark you've just got to get a job selling Leica! "Soon everyone will have
>>> one 
>>> in their coat pocket" could be the next buzz words in their ads!
>>> I, too would like to see the quality of the Q next to the same shot from an
>>> M. 
>>> Maybe the Q would be better. And it might not have any oil spots or dust on
>>> the sensor, at least we can hope!!
>>> 
>>> Scott
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Jun 10, 2015, at 11:48 AM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I'm thinking if you made a 13x19 inch print with your M and hung another
>>>> one
>>>> same size right next to it made with the also full frame Q the quality
>>>> would
>>>> very possibly not be at all lacking when you are looking at those two
>>>> prints
>>>> side to side.  You might just be looking at matching image quality.
>>>> Leica won't sell lenes as a result of a Q sale but those puppies will fly
>>>> out the Am Leitz Park faster than the M's. Soon everybody will have one in
>>>> their coat pocket. Problem is summer is upon us.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 6/10/15 11:02 AM, "Mark Rabiner" <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> The Q Leica is out and I'm excited.
>>>>> Its a direct response to the full frame Sony DSC-RX1  compact rangefinder
>>>>> camera which came out September 12, 2012 and didn't create a new market
>>>>> niche as I thought it would. It has stood alone. One thing hipster camera
>>>>> buyers really don't care about is the bottom line image quality so they
>>>>> revert to cropped $999 formats  a thing I'll do when the camera can be
>>>>> worn
>>>>> as a tie clip. And go off by itself when I wink my left eye.
>>>>> The new Q is very much like the RX1 in that the lens is an all out assault
>>>>> taking no prisoners approach with compactness not being one of the first
>>>>> parameters oddly enough on a compact camera. So it becomes quite an effete
>>>>> item with this amazing chuck of glass on the front of it making for a much
>>>>> bigger pocket you'd get to slide it in. I'd have done the opposite and put
>>>>> >>>> a
>>>>> collapsible 3.5 on the front of it or 2.8 like on Rollie 35. And not have
>>>>> it
>>>>> be a mini monster. The point of the camera is that its with you . Taking
>>>>> better pix by far than your cell phone.
>>>>> Selling for 4 and quarter grand $ if it slows down sales on M's Leica
>>>>> won't
>>>>> be loosing any money.
>>>>> I'd kill for one. If there's a dead body on the sidewalk with a Q missing
>>>>> you'll know I  did it. If you buy one I'd walk on well lit streets in
>>>>> public
>>>>> places. And put a blonde mustache on your glasses nose.
>>>>> 
>>>>> With big drum rolls Leica in the past years introduced a couple of camera
>>>>> systems which they said would put a dent in what pros used for their
>>>>> photography. They were not a response to the Sony RX1. The Sony RX1 could
>>>>> take them to the cleaners as these were cropped cameras and no one thinks
>>>>> the results we get from an M or a DSLR is going to be threatened by a
>>>>> cropped camera. Its apples and oranges. Or as the French say Apples and
>>>>> Pears.... In this cropped camera cast aluminum with an iPhone interface.
>>>>> The Q will be a camera which will made with results not overshadowed by
>>>>> the
>>>>> M system just like a Rollei 35 did against any full sized 35mm camera.
>>>>> Why?
>>>>> The format was the same. Plus Zeiss glass. Just don't jerk the camera when
>>>>> you take the picture.
>>>>> Leica was in no hurry to do this. As its taken years. I think they know
>>>>> now
>>>>> for sure they're in this for the long haul.
>>>>> But doing it is a smart move became if there is a company which is making
>>>>> a
>>>>> compact full frame rangefinder top quality competitive to full sized
>>>>> cameras
>>>>> it should be Leica. Leica is the company which invented quality compact
>>>>> photography. It should not be the company which finds it ill advised as we
>>>>> mustn't compete with ourselves.
>>>>> 
>>>>> By the way  I just read the whole time the Sony has been out which is
>>>>> almost
>>>>> 3 years no firmware fixes to some quirky issues.
>>>>> BAD Sony!
>>>>> Lets see if they respond to Leica. Or if any body else does. I'd love to
>>>>> see
>>>>> a third full frame compact rangefinder in the camera store.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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>>>> Mark William Rabiner
>>>> Photographer
>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/
>>>> 
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