[Leica] Phase One XF medium format camera system

Wed Jun 3 17:56:57 PDT 2015

How about a Schneider lens with a red dot??

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/893164-USA/Leica_11079_120mm_F_5_6_Elmar_S.html

john

-----Original Message-----
From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+john=mcmaster.co.nz at leica-users.org] On Behalf Of Mark Rabiner
Sent: Thursday, 4 June 2015 12:43 p.m.
To: Leica Users Group
Subject: Re: [Leica] Phase One XF medium format camera system

Gorgeousness is in the eye of the beholder Douglas.
I think Apple products are gorgeous. Vespa products. I like the way Sony stuff looks. JSK Schneider stuff. Nikon stuff. But most of all Leica stuff for product gorgeousness. The Red dot is a great plus. But the Blue dot is a mean contender.
If there's anything more gorgeous than a JSK Schneider lens I don't know what it is.
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/818360-REG/Schneider_06_1064382_PC_TS_
Super_Angulon.html

OR

http://tinyurl.com/o3spouo

On 6/3/15 7:40 PM, "Douglas Barry" <imra at iol.ie> wrote:

> 
"Mark Rabiner" <mark at rabinergroup.com> ventured on the love that dares not
> 
speak its name...
>>>
>A lenes first job is to be drop dead gorgeous. Its  second job it to 
>make  gorgeous images!
> Same with cameras!
<<<

Eh, erm,
> Mark, so could you define what exactly makes a lens drop dead
gorgeous
> looking? That said I'm sure there's some sort of chatroom that
devotes itself
> to this sort of thing, but let's save time. Do share....

Douglas

>
> On
> 6/3/15 5:57 PM, "Bob Adler" <rgacpa at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Sheesh. Another new
> comer... just like Sony...
> ;-)
>
> On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at
>> 2:26 PM, Sonny
> Carter <sonc.hegr at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Wikipedia knows all,
>>
>>
>>
> "Takumar is the name that Asahi Optical gave to its lenses, notably 
> but
>>
> not
>>
>> exclusively those for its own SLR cameras. Named after the
> Japanese
>>
>> craftsman Takuma Kajiwara (梶原啄磨 ,Kajiwara Takuma"
>>
>>
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Takumar>
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 4:20
> PM,
>> John McMaster <john at mcmaster.co.nz> wrote:
>>
>> > I think you may be
> looking at
>> the lenses from the wrong side ;-) They are
>> > for using
> rather than looking
>> at......
>> >
>> > john
>> >
>> > -----Original
> Message-----
>> > From: LUG
>>
> [mailto:lug-bounces+john=mcmaster.co.nz at leica-users.org] On
>> > Behalf Of
> Mark
>> Rabiner
>> > Sent: Thursday, 4 June 2015 9:18 a.m.
>> > To: Leica
> Users Group
>>
>> > Subject: Re: [Leica] Phase One XF medium format camera
> system
>> >
>> > Oh boy
>> a Pentax!! Will I be able to get Super Takumar
> lenses? NO!
>> > I know I just
>> checked the Ricoh site.
>> > A camera body
> is all about giving an impressive
>> line of glass a home .
>> > These babies
> are dog ugly...: not going to spend
>> five grand for them.
>> >
> http://www.us.ricoh-imaging.com/645z/lens.html
>> >
>>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
> >
>> > On 6/3/15 12:39 AM, "Bob Adler" <rgacpa at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >
> > Mark,
>> > $8,000 for a MF SLR PLUS a MFDB of 50MP PLUS a MF
>> 55/f2.8
> about the same
>> > > cost as a M240 or new M246 or Nocti 0.95 all
>>
> alone.
>> >
>> > It's a freaking steal
>> > > anyway you slice it! The
> Canon
>> EOS1-D C is $8,000 18MP AND NO LENS!
>> >
>> > Yes it's
>> > >
> expensive, but
>> compared to others in the market, it's a give away!
>> >
>>
> > What are
>> > > you
>> waiting for? A Pentax complete MF camera and lens
> system for the
>> > > same
>> price as a Canon body... Keep us posted...
> :-)
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Bob Adler
>> >
>> Robert Adler
>> > > Photography
>> >
> www.robertadlerphotography.com
>> >
>> > > On
>> Jun 2, 2015, at 8:10 PM,
> Mark
>> > > Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > > There's
> the aspect perhaps that
>> > > once you're getting into
>> thousands of
>> > >
> dollars not just hundreds you're
>> > > talking about
>> financing. And its a
> thing you arrange with a banker and
>> > > a payment is a
>> payment. Its a
> slight bigger monthly chunk of money
>> > > you're paying off to
>> get
> Schneider glass or Leica glass. Or Pentax
>> > > glass which is marvelously
>>
> above average.
>> > > So when it comes to having to finance something I'd
> go
>> for the gusto.
>> > > I'd not skimp on glass. And who knows what  Pentax
> sensor
>> is like vs.
>> > > a Leica or a PhaseOne.? No clue.
>> > >
>> > >
>>
> > >> On
>> 6/2/15 9:13
>> > > PM, "Bob Adler" <rgacpa at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
> >>
>> > >> Our
>> local store is having a
>> > > Pentax 645Z sale where if you
> buy the body
>> (a50MP
>> > >> back is an integral
>> > > component), you get
> a free 55mm f/2,8
>> lens.
>> > >
>> > > For
>> > >> $8k...
>> > >
>> > >
> Phase is
>> > > going to have a
>> tough time with prosumers and
> dilettantes
>> > >> like
>> > > me...
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>> > > On Tue, Jun 2,
> 2015 at 5:14 PM, Mark Rabiner
>> > >>
>> <mark at rabinergroup.com>
>> > >
> wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> A new standard in
>> photography is being hyped with
> this new
>> > > major upgrade to
>> > >> the
>> whole medium format PhaseOne
> system the whole thing
>> > > seemingly totally
>>
>> > >> re
>> > >> designed
> and the top ended of three
>> > >> cameras
>> > > having
>> a CMOS but the
> lower two
>> > >> sticking with a more traditional for
>> > >>
>>
>> > >
> medium format CCD.
>> > >> XF IQ3 80MP - $48,990 / €38,990 CMOS XF
>>
> IQ3 60MP -
>> > >>
>> > > $41,990 / €33,990 CCD
>> > >> XF IQ3 50MP - $40,990
> /
>> €31,990 CCD
>> > >>
>> > >> Is the top
>> > > end
>> > >> one the lower
> ones not
>> that much cheaper.
>> > >>
>> > >> What really caught me
>> > > is
> the way
>> > >>
>> the Schneider-Kreuznach leaf shutter
>> > >> lenses
>> > >>
> are being
>> > >
>> described or
>> > >> hyped.
>> > >> They are rated at
> 100MP. Not line pairs but
>> MP's
>> > > which are
>> > >> megapixels. So
>> >
> >> glass now is now rated now
>> by its real
>> > > resolution (line
>> > >>
> pairs), contrast or
>> > >> MTF
>> charts but on what size digital
>> > > file
> they can
>> > >> support.
>> > >> The
>> upshot one may assume you know when
> you spend
>> > > tens of thousands
>> > >>
>> on a
>> > >> new
>> > >> lens
> you wont be buying a camera
>> > > afterwards which
>> resolves higher
>> > >>
> than your
>> > >> lens thus putting a damper on
>> > >
>> the buying of the
> camera for a big
>> > >> part.
>> > >> To me this is a
>> milestone but
>> > >
> I'm ready for someone here to tell me
>> > >> its
>> > >>
>> been
>> > >>
> going on for years.
>> > > This is the first I've noticed.
>> > >>
>>
>> > >>
> I do
>> > >> think I've been using for most
>> > > of my digital experience
>>
> over the past
>> > >> dozen
>> > >> years glass that resolved
>> > > higher
> than
>> my camera bodies. And lived.
>> > >> But I've
>> > >> not been in a
> medium
>> > >
>> format mindset. Or do set. But instead I've
>> > >> been
> going
>> > >> through
>> the
>> > > burgeoning beginnings of fairly serious
> digital
>> > >> photography.
>> Not
>> > >> the pie
>> > > in the shy over the
> top end.
>> > >>
>> > >> Lenses
>> Ready for 100MP
>> > >>
>> > >> --
>> >
> >>
>> > > Mark
>> > >> William Rabiner
>> >
>> >> Photographer
>> > >>
>> >
>>
> >
>> >
>> >
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>> --
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>>
>> Sonny
>>
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>> Natchitoches, Louisiana
>>
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> Permanent Settlement in the Louisiana Purchase
>>
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>>
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