[Leica] Phase One XF medium format camera system

Wed Jun 3 16:09:13 PDT 2015

A lenes first job is to be drop dead gorgeous. Its second job it to make
gorgeous images!
Same with cameras!

On 6/3/15 5:57 PM, "Bob Adler" <rgacpa at gmail.com> wrote:

> Sheesh. Another new comer... just like Sony...
;-)

On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at
> 2:26 PM, Sonny Carter <sonc.hegr at gmail.com> wrote:

> Wikipedia knows all,
>
>
> "Takumar is the name that Asahi Optical gave to its lenses, notably but not
>
> exclusively those for its own SLR cameras. Named after the Japanese
>
> craftsman Takuma Kajiwara (梶原啄磨 ,Kajiwara Takuma"
>
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Takumar>
>
> On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 4:20 PM,
> John McMaster <john at mcmaster.co.nz> wrote:
>
> > I think you may be looking at
> the lenses from the wrong side ;-) They are
> > for using rather than looking
> at......
> >
> > john
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: LUG
> [mailto:lug-bounces+john=mcmaster.co.nz at leica-users.org] On
> > Behalf Of Mark
> Rabiner
> > Sent: Thursday, 4 June 2015 9:18 a.m.
> > To: Leica Users Group
>
> > Subject: Re: [Leica] Phase One XF medium format camera system
> >
> > Oh boy
> a Pentax!! Will I be able to get Super Takumar lenses? NO!
> > I know I just
> checked the Ricoh site.
> > A camera body is all about giving an impressive
> line of glass a home .
> > These babies are dog ugly...: not going to spend
> five grand for them.
> > http://www.us.ricoh-imaging.com/645z/lens.html
> >
>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 6/3/15 12:39 AM, "Bob Adler" <rgacpa at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Mark,
> > $8,000 for a MF SLR PLUS a MFDB of 50MP PLUS a MF
> 55/f2.8 about the same
> > > cost as a M240 or new M246 or Nocti 0.95 all
> alone.
> >
> > It's a freaking steal
> > > anyway you slice it! The Canon
> EOS1-D C is $8,000 18MP AND NO LENS!
> >
> > Yes it's
> > > expensive, but
> compared to others in the market, it's a give away!
> >
> > What are
> > > you
> waiting for? A Pentax complete MF camera and lens system for the
> > > same
> price as a Canon body... Keep us posted... :-)
> >
> >
> >
> > Bob Adler
> >
> Robert Adler
> > > Photography
> > www.robertadlerphotography.com
> >
> > > On
> Jun 2, 2015, at 8:10 PM, Mark
> > > Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > > There's the aspect perhaps that
> > > once you're getting into
> thousands of
> > > dollars not just hundreds you're
> > > talking about
> financing. And its a thing you arrange with a banker and
> > > a payment is a
> payment. Its a slight bigger monthly chunk of money
> > > you're paying off to
> get Schneider glass or Leica glass. Or Pentax
> > > glass which is marvelously
> above average.
> > > So when it comes to having to finance something I'd go
> for the gusto.
> > > I'd not skimp on glass. And who knows what  Pentax sensor
> is like vs.
> > > a Leica or a PhaseOne.? No clue.
> > >
> > >
> > >> On
> 6/2/15 9:13
> > > PM, "Bob Adler" <rgacpa at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Our
> local store is having a
> > > Pentax 645Z sale where if you buy the body
> (a50MP
> > >> back is an integral
> > > component), you get a free 55mm f/2,8
> lens.
> > >
> > > For
> > >> $8k...
> > >
> > > Phase is
> > > going to have a
> tough time with prosumers and dilettantes
> > >> like
> > > me...
> > >
> >
> >
> > > On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 5:14 PM, Mark Rabiner
> > >>
> <mark at rabinergroup.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> A new standard in
> photography is being hyped with this new
> > > major upgrade to
> > >> the
> whole medium format PhaseOne system the whole thing
> > > seemingly totally
>
> > >> re
> > >> designed and the top ended of three
> > >> cameras
> > > having
> a CMOS but the lower two
> > >> sticking with a more traditional for
> > >>
>
> > > medium format CCD.
> > >> XF IQ3 80MP - $48,990 / €38,990 CMOS
> > >> XF
> IQ3 60MP -
> > >>
> > > $41,990 / €33,990 CCD
> > >> XF IQ3 50MP - $40,990 /
> €31,990 CCD
> > >>
> > >> Is the top
> > > end
> > >> one the lower ones not
> that much cheaper.
> > >>
> > >> What really caught me
> > > is the way
> > >>
> the Schneider-Kreuznach leaf shutter
> > >> lenses
> > >> are being
> > >
> described or
> > >> hyped.
> > >> They are rated at  100MP. Not line pairs but
> MP's
> > > which are
> > >> megapixels. So
> > >> glass now is now rated now
> by its real
> > > resolution (line
> > >> pairs), contrast or
> > >> MTF
> charts but on what size digital
> > > file they can
> > >> support.
> > >> The
> upshot one may assume you know when you spend
> > > tens of thousands
> > >>
> on a
> > >> new
> > >> lens you wont be buying a camera
> > > afterwards which
> resolves higher
> > >> than your
> > >> lens thus putting a damper on
> > >
> the buying of the camera for a big
> > >> part.
> > >> To me this is a
> milestone but
> > > I'm ready for someone here to tell me
> > >> its
> > >>
> been
> > >> going on for years.
> > > This is the first I've noticed.
> > >>
>
> > >> I do
> > >> think I've been using for most
> > > of my digital experience
> over the past
> > >> dozen
> > >> years glass that resolved
> > > higher than
> my camera bodies. And lived.
> > >> But I've
> > >> not been in a medium
> > >
> format mindset. Or do set. But instead I've
> > >> been going
> > >> through
> the
> > > burgeoning beginnings of fairly serious digital
> > >> photography.
> Not
> > >> the pie
> > > in the shy over the top end.
> > >>
> > >> Lenses
> Ready for 100MP
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >>
> > > Mark
> > >> William Rabiner
> >
> >> Photographer
> > >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
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>
>
> --
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>
> Sonny
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> Natchitoches, Louisiana
>
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>
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