[Leica] OT: What would you do?

Thu Jan 8 15:01:19 PST 2015

Thanks Tina and all. Still struggling, but all the varied answers are
helpful.
I'm not really trying to make any money, but don't want to loose any either
or devalue the work by either giving it away (when others have paid) or
defacing it before taking to the dump.

Most the frames are floating frames made for each image: different sizes,
etc.  I'm still considering storage somewhere... somewhere...
Thanks again. Other suggestions welcome of course.
Best,
Bob

On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 2:26 PM, Tina Manley <tmanley at gmail.com> wrote:

> Most of the work that I have donated to charities has been as photographic
> work for them to use in fund-raising.  The way I get around the tax
> donation is to charge them my normal rates for the work and then turn
> around and donate that much back to them.  None of the charities I've
> worked with has had a problem with this.  I don't know if you could work
> something out like that for print donations, but it might be worth
> investigating.
>
> Tina
>
> On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 3:19 PM, Ken Carney <kcarney1 at cox.net> wrote:
>
> > That's correct.  Under §170(e), IRC, the fair market value must be
> reduced
> > by any ordinary income that would be recognized on a sale. In other
> words,
> > for all practical purposes donations of self-created art are limited to
> > cost of producing it.  It gets worse.  If the item is not self-created,
> and
> > is not donated "for the use of" the charity, then the deduction is
> reduced
> > by any gain that would be recognized.  So if you donate the Picasso to a
> > charity for the purpose of the charity selling it, your deduction is
> > limited to your cost.  And if the appraisal rules kick in, they apply to
> > the total of similar items donated, not each individual item.
> >
> > It gets worse.  Suppose you are a really gifted photographer and you
> > create a photo worth, oh I don't know, say $6.5 million and hang on to
> it.
> > You have probably created a death tax liability of 40% of that.  Enough
> for
> > one day.
> >
> > Ken
> >
> >
> > On 1/8/2015 1:18 PM, Wilbur Norman wrote:
> >
> >> In regards to Tina's comment:
> >>
> >> I believe the deductions she is referring to are for items NOT CREATED
> BY
> >> THE PERSON who is making the donation. So, if you donate a Picasso, you
> get
> >> a Fair Market Value. For items created by the artist donating, its
> another
> >> ball of wax.
> >>
> >> And, I believe the ceiling for NOT getting an appraisal is $5000 as
> >> amended in the Pension Law some years ago (seems odd but thise folks in
> DC
> >> add non-related items to laws all the time.)
> >>
> >>
> >> Wilbur
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> *************
> >>
> >> On Jan 8, 2015, at 12:02 PM, Susan Ryan wrote:
> >>
> >>  Can you take a tax deduction for a charitable donation? If so, how do
> >>> you choose a dollar value of the photos donated?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Sue
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>
> >>>  On Jan 8, 2015, at 11:50 AM, Tina Manley <tmanley at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> That's probably the best solution - donate to charity auctions.  I've
> >>>> done
> >>>> that quite a bit and it's always appreciated.
> >>>>
> >>>> Tina
> >>>>
> >>>> On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 1:49 PM, Doug Herr <
> wildlightphoto at earthlink.net
> >>>> >
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>  Donate to charity auctions?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Doug Herr
> >>>>> Orangevale, Sacramento County
> >>>>> http://www.wildlightphoto.com
> >>>>> http://doug-herr.fineartamerica.com
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> From: Robert Adler <rgacpa at gmail.com>
> >>>>>> Sent: Jan 8, 2015 10:07 AM
> >>>>>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> >>>>>> Subject: [Leica] OT: What would you do?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I have a dilema. I'm moving back into my old home and clearing out
> 25+
> >>>>>> years of "stuff", Clean sweep.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I know some of you have been through this recently
> >>>>>> (George/Tina/etc.). I
> >>>>>> have a ton of framed prints that haven't sold at galleries/coffee
> >>>>>> shops,
> >>>>>> but that doesn't mean they aren't lovely (IMO).
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> They are custom framed and mounted. Archival. The works. I don't
> want
> >>>>>> to
> >>>>>> give them away (I think that devalues all art), and I don't want to
> >>>>>> pack
> >>>>>> and ship them to folks.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Please PLEASE suggestions? The dump just seems wrong..
> >>>>>> Thanks!
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>> Bob Adler
> >>>>>> www.robertadlerphotography.com
> >>>>>>
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> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Tina Manley
> >>>> www.tinamanley.com
> >>>> tina-manley.artistwebsites.com
> >>>> http://www.alamy.com/stock-photography/3B49552F-90A0-
> >>>> 4D0A-A11D-2175C937AA91/Tina+Manley.html
> >>>>
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> --
> Tina Manley
> www.tinamanley.com
> tina-manley.artistwebsites.com
>
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