Today the cold, mud, rocks, and poison oak was worth it: http://www.wildlightphoto.com/mammals/mustelidae/nrotte15.html technical stuff: R8/DMR, 280mm f/4 APO-Telyt-R, big old Gitzo. All comments welcome. Doug Herr Orangevale, Sacramento County http://www.wildlightphoto.com http://doug-herr.fineartamerica.com