[Leica] The myths of crop factor

[Mark Rabiner]

Richard I think terms like "fingerprint" and "Character" in lenses is
reserved for the revealed faults of lenses of simple coatings or no coatings
from decades gone by like the 1960s and before.
I can see that modern made of digital optics with smaller image circles and
costing many thousands of dollars might out spec made for Hassy Zeiss made
in the 1990's. But that doesn't reduce them to relics. The specs on these
Zeiss optics are still super high way higher than what we normally see in
all but modern cutting edge Leica M optics.
I sure hope its ok for us to be talking about this!


On 1/6/15 1:20 AM, "Richard Man" <richard at richardmanphoto.com> wrote:

> That's the one I mentioned. It lists at $15K but people have gotten it as
> low as $12K-$13K through grey market.
> 
> It's the same Sony CMOS sensor used in all the latest MF cameras and backs,
> Leica excepted. So it goes to the inexpensive Pentax 645Z for $8000 up to
> the $$$ Phase One at $30000+ (is that enough zeroes?) So the Hassy price is
> not too bad in that sense.
> 
> Supposedly the latest Schneider and Rodenstock lens are way better than old
> non-digital lens, but I suspect the old classic Hasselblad Zeiss lens can
> make it up with their "characters."
> 
> 
> On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 10:09 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote:
> 
>> Someone I think Hasselblad/Fuji is marketing a not super high priced new
>> CMOS back which works with classic Hassy 500c bodies or an ELM such as I
>> have. Its enough to make me try to get a job in the post office.
>> 
>> 
>> A CMOS back makes your Hassy not just a studio and tripod camera but a
>> digital version of the Hassy film camera like a 35mm DSLR Is to an SLR. In
>> other words you can use it on the street or indoors or at dusk hand held.
>> A medium format camera whose iso tops off at 200 would be a lot more
>> constricting and limiting than you'd think. There's also a limit on longer
>> exposures I think. Personally I'm ok with tripod use but it would be nice
>> to
>> do with my Hassys what I used to do with them and and what I do now with
>> 35mm format DSLR's. Almost.
>> I used a lot of 220 iso 800 film in my Hassy's. Color neg.
>> 
>> 
>> On 1/5/15 11:25 PM, "Richard Man" <richard at richardmanphoto.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> The newest Sony back is now available from Hasselblad for $13K-$15K.
>> Still
>>> more than the Pentax 645Z which uses the same back of course, but much
>>> cheaper than what Phase One charges. Great way to get your Hasselblad
>>> systems to state of art 2015.
>>> 
>>> This also means that older backs like the P45 will be dropping to around
>>> $8000-$10000 mark.
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 8:14 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com>
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> You lucky guy!
>>>> 
>>>> I thought my Hassy system as lucky for me as it would be the first in
>> line
>>>> for any digital revolution which might come to pass. Did not occur to me
>>>> that those backs would cost more than any car I ever bought.
>>>> So that's not happened for me yet. But I still have my complete
>> Hasselblad
>>>> system. A nice set of top quality Zeiss for Hasselblad glass. Including
>> a
>>>> 10omm f3.5. Made specifically for the Hassy system by Zeiss.  Not Cosina
>>>> Zeiss. Zeiss Zeiss.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 1/5/15 11:01 PM, "George Lottermoser" <george.imagist at icloud.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> my Hasselblad is a DSLR
>>>>> 
>>>>> a note off the iPad, George
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Jan 5, 2015, at 9:52 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> used to balk when people would say a DSLR replaced a Hasselblad.
>>>>>> Now I half agree with it.
>>>>> 
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