[Leica] Konost "Leica" YA GOTTA LOVE IT!!!

Wed Feb 25 06:27:46 PST 2015

As I've pointed out before, and demonstrated with images, the A7s seems to have overcome the wide angle issues.  I recently photographed the American Cemetery here, and the images were blown up to 5 feet high for a display.  The lens was a V/C 15mm M. 

I also often shoot happily with the 21 pre asph M that you hate.  I've used the 28 Minolta M on it, but I don't care for the focal length as much as the 35, so not enough to report.

I own more lenses than anyone needs, including the wonderful Zeiss 55mm FE, and the camera seems happy with them all.

from my iPad

Sonny Carter

> On Feb 25, 2015, at 1:40 AM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote:
> 
> I kind of maybe assume wrong that if a camera company real or imagined came
> out with a Leica M solution it should be able to be used with impunity on
> Leica M glass from ultrawide to darned long. (135mm)
> As if that's why its there and people put their 21 or 18mm on it and it
> looked like Coney Island at high tide not quite in the center people would
> complain and a few might have their credit card companies cancel the
> transaction entirely. Like a tree falling alone in the woods.
> 
> The Sony A7 has looked real good to me from the start. I love its compact
> lightweight and bare boned industrial design. My D700 weights a ton.
> In the past week I've looked into it as a friend of mine in Puerto Rico just
> picked one up with a Canon adaptor but uses most the time I think with a
> Sony Sonnar T* FE 55mm f/1.8 ZA Lens which is supposed to give the Zeiss
> Zeiss 55mm f/1.4 Otus Distagon T* EF a run for its money.  The Otus with no
> regrets gets called often the best normal lens in the world and cost 4 grand
> while the FE cost one grand and supposedly has specs to almost match.
> But the point here would be to use it with Leica glass and I cant keep track
> but all these cameras which do that people keep saying here they don't work
> with wides. For me that's a deal breaker became I'm a wide kinda guy. I have
> wides for breakfast. Right now my piggy bank says "20mm f/1.8G ED AFS" on it
> in blue magic marker. On my camera I've a just bought  a 35mm 1.8G ED.
> My new lens line is all about Mr. ED.
> 
>> On 2/25/15 1:09 AM, "Sonny Carter" <sonc.hegr at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Mark sez:  "Id love  for a real camera company to come out with a simple
> and
>> concise
> full frame M glass solution."
> 
> My full frame Sony A7s sits beside me
>> on the table with my pre-asph 35mm
> Summilux M on the mount.  It also has had
>> my 15mm Voigtländer, 21mm
> Super-Angulon f4, 21mm Elmarit, 40mm Summicron C,
>> 50mm Summicron,  75 mm
> Summarit, 90mm Tele-Elmarit M lenses, (also fits my my
>> 90 Summicron R, 135
> Elmarit R.)
> 
> Admittedly it is menu intensive, until
>> customized the way you want, then
> the menus are hands off.
> 
> I have another
>> simple and concise full frame M glass solution camera; a
> Leica M9.
> 
> Both from
>> real camera companies . . .
> 
> On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 7:18 PM, Mark Rabiner
>> <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote:
> 
>> When the T came out I thought I was not the
>> only one who had no interest in
>> it as it was a cropped camera and the idea
>> of shooting thought the centers
>> of my Leica M glass does not appeal to me in
>> a compact camera I was
>> expecting an answer to Sony's RX1 a camera which like
>> the film based Rollei
>> 35 gave a Leica screw mount or M a run for its money
>> which fits in your
>> pocket and cost quite a bit less.
>> Leica though had
>> other ideas on undercutting itself and seems happy with
>> the
>> idea that you
>> need now seven grand to power your cache of Leica M glass.
>> This is ok as
>> other companies can supply that whim as they've done in the
>> past.
>> 
>> The
>> Leica T has an interface which compares with an IPhone.
>> I'm not looking for
>> that as I can just about make a phone call on my iPhone
>> unless they go the
>> whole route and allow me to make phone calls with it.
>> Then I can stare at it
>> all day like everyone else does. Read War and Peace
>> on the back.
>> 
>> My main
>> axe to grind is this camera is not vaporware as in a fig Newton of
>> some
>> software designers imagination.
>> Its crowd funding ware.. A new thing foisted
>> upon us in the camera
>> industry.
>> "I will come out with this cool camera if
>> you all pretend I'm Muscular
>> Sclerosis and send me a big pile of money"
>> Id
>> love  for a real camera company to come out with a simple and concise
>> full
>> frame M glass solution. One which won't dissolve when everyone decides
>> they
>> are not their new favorite charity.
>> 
>> On 2/24/15 4:40 PM, "Geoff Hopkinson"
>> <hopsternew at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Dear Dr Ted it is a concept that they hope
>> will appeal to enough people
>> to
>>> get enough money so that they can try to
>> develop and market it. I think
>>> that it would be a formidable challenge to
>> produce especially with a
>>> comparatively miniscule R&D budget, no
>> manufacturing base or experience.
>>> As far as I know Kyle's figure of USD
>> 1300 was just a speculation on what
>>> people might pay for such a camera
>>> 
>> The styling and concept looks to be copied straight from an actual Leica
>>> 
>> (the T)
>>> Take a look:
>>> 
>> http://us.leica-camera.com/Photography/Leica-T/Leica-T-Camera-System
>>> It
>> has its own AF lens system and an adapter that allows the use of M
>> lenses
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Cheers
>>> Geoff
>>> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman
>>> 
>>> On 25
>> February 2015 at 07:28, Ted Grant <tedgrant at shaw.ca> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Larry
>> Zeitlin OFFERED:>> This looks very interesting.
>>>>>> M lens mount.
>>>>>> No
>> unnecessary buttons.
>>>>>> I really like the all digital rangefinder concept
>> - no mirror, no?
>>>> calibration worries.
>>>> http://konost.com/
>>>> 
>> ===================================================================
>>>> 
>>>> 
>> Hi Larry, Thanks for the heads-up on this new "LEICA LIKE CAMERA?????"
>>>> 
>> =====================================================
>>>> Hi CREW,
>>>> What
>> think you folks? Maybe some bright thinking people at LEICA should
>> be
>>>> 
>> looking at a camera with these capabilities at a much lower price than
>> 
>> what
>>>> they're charging these days???
>>>> 
>>>> If one thinks about this a
>> tad and considers that this "KONOST CAMERA"
>> uses
>>>> LEICA LENSES! No
>> fiddling around "click and mount your Noctilux or
>> whatever
>>>> LEICA glass"
>> with a capture capability of >>a 20mp Full Frame CMOS image
>>>> sensor <<< It
>> would seem?  "HOW CAN YOU GO WRONG? If the price is much
>>>> lower
>>>> than
>> a new "M LEICA?" of today?
>>>> 
>>>> In any event me not being a
>> camera/equipment testing photog? However? In
>>>> this case I certainly
>> wouldn't mind getting my hands and an eye to one
>> of
>>>> these "KONOST" FF
>> cameras!
>>>> 
>>>> Given the details other than a firm price? This may become
>> a "MAJOR
>>>> CHALLENGING FOR LEICA??????? Simply because there isn't any
>> extra "lens
>>>> fiddling to be done!" Other than clicking it onto the body
>> and away you
>> go!
>>>> One just has to love it!!!!!!! :-) Truly KISS simple!
>> :-)  By the same
>>>> token
>>>> let's hope that is true!
>>>> 
>>>> It does
>> appear this is a truly "KISS CAMERA" for those who just want to
>>>> take
>>>> 
>> pictures for fun and living happy without all the so called techie bells
>>>> 
>> and
>>>> whistles! Truly a simple?  "SEE-CLICK" camera! :-)
>>>> 
>>>> Let's
>> hope so at a reasonable price! :-)
>>>> cheers,
>>>> Dr. ted
>>>> 
>> ======================================================
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original
>> Message-----
>>>> From: LUG
>> [mailto:lug-bounces+tedgrant=shaw.ca at leica-users.org] On
>> Behalf
>>>> Of
>>>> 
>> Larry Zeitlin via LUG
>>>> Sent: February-24-15 12:08 PM
>>>> To:
>> lug at leica-users.org
>>>> Subject: [Leica] Konost "Leica"
>>>> 
>>>> Don't
>> knock the idea of a simplified all electronic Leica. With current
>>>> 
>> technology it is MUCH cheaper to do things digitally than with precision
>>>> 
>> made optics and mechanical parts. An all electronic rangefinder sounds
>>>> 
>> great. No cams, prisms, movable parts. Less expense. There is no
>> shortage
>> 
>>>> of
>>>> sensor manufacturers. Numerous approaches to doing away with
>> microlenses
>>>> have been offered. Some on this very list. Remember a camera
>> is just a
>> box
>>>> with a lens on one side and a sensor on the other. Almost
>> every thing
>> else
>>>> is negotiable. Leica doesn't have a lock on all the
>> good optical and
>>>> electronic engineers in the world. I am told that there
>> are a few in
>> Japan,
>>>> the US, and maybe even in Australia.
>>>> Larry Z
>> 
>>>> - - -
>>>> This looks very interesting.
>>>> M lens mount.
>>>> No
>> unnecessary buttons.
>>>> I really like the all digital rangefinder concept -
>> no mirror, no?
>>>> calibration worries.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> http://konost.com/
>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>> 
>> http://photorumors.com/2015/02/23/konost-ff-is-a-full-frame-digital-rangefin
>> 
>>>> der-camera-that-seeks-funding/
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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