[Leica] Monochrom metadata and uncoded lenses

Sat Feb 14 14:12:22 PST 2015

> On Feb 14, 2015, at 11:58 AM, Lew Schwartz <lew1716 at gmail.com> wrote:
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> I marvel that, amid this      "verbal tsunami"....

and I marvel that you have summed up the LUG in two words.

Steve

> , my question was actually answered!
> Thanks to all who can keep on point.
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> -Lew Schwartz
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> On Sat, Feb 14, 2015 at 1:52 PM, Ted Grant <tedgrant at shaw.ca> wrote:
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>> HI Nathan,
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>> Yes I'm sure I may have done some of that. But without question because in
>> my case even though having a regular job. Every other minute I was out
>> shooting all kinds of stuff. In many cases during the "long days of summer
>> with light at dawn I was out looking for picture moments until it was time
>> for my regular job. Camera still with me there were all kinds of picture
>> moments in and about Ottawa until sunset and after! J
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>> Mine was a week long class room. Some weeks I'd shoot 20 or more rolls a
>> week. Out shooting until darkness before I'd return home. Then soup all the
>> film exposed that day. Make contact proof sheets of all the film from the
>> previous days photo adventures. Saturdays and sometimes on Sunday I was at
>> the local dirt track speedway shooting stock car racing. Irene would sit on
>> the hood of the car parked in the pits watching the race from there. And on
>> occasion would sell 8X10 b&W prints for a dollar to crew members from other
>> pit crews. And we'd go home with $50.oo dollars or more in our pockets! AND
>> A BIG SMILE!:-)
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>> I wasnt' a "roll of film a week shooter!" I would buy 100' rolls of tri-x
>> and load my own cassettes!  It could be 10 rolls a day or more shooting! My
>> introduction was like walking into a  big class room and shoot, shoot day
>> after day. Other photo buddies where always writing stuff down. ME?? I
>> learned by doing so much shooting because so much of it just came naturally
>> without a lot of writing and reading. Or if you read something in a
>> magazine and there was time immediately to try it?  I was out the door on a
>> new learning adventure trying whatever the new stuff was. Obviously lots of
>> the nonsensical stuff I never bothered with.
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>> Learning portrait lighting my children were still in high chairs. So
>> that's where they were against blank cream white wall while I learned what
>> all kinds of portrait lighting effects were and practiced. And yes
>> (un-willing at times) Irene sat in as an adult model.
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>> It was a truly "WE LEARN BY DOING!!!!!!)  Not just reading and writing
>> notes! J And a few snaps once in awhile. Irene at times would say "SHE WAS
>> A PHOTO WIDOW!" J But all that paid off in later years!
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>> cheers,
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>> ted
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+tedgrant=shaw.ca at leica-users.org] On Behalf
>> Of Nathan Wajsman
>> Sent: February-14-15 9:53 AM
>> To: lug Group
>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Monochrom metadata and uncoded lenses
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>> Ted, when I was learning photography back in the mid-80s, I did write down
>> exposure data. When you are learning, it can be useful to keep track of
>> aperture and shutter speed, so as to better understand the effect of
>> aperture on depth of field, for example, or shutter speed vs. motion blur.
>> Today, our digital cameras record this info automatically; I doubt that it
>> adds more than €0.10 to the cost of any camera.
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>> Cheers,
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>> Nathan
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>> Nathan Wajsman
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>> Alicante, Spain
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>> http://www.frozenlight.eu
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>> http://www.greatpix.eu
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>> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws
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>> Blog: http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/
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>> Cycling: http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator
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>> YNWA
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>>> On 14 Feb 2015, at 18:45, Ted Grant <tedgrant at shaw.ca> wrote:
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>>> Frank Dernie OFFERED MOST INTERESTINLY:
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>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Monochrom metadata and uncoded lenses
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>>>>> The camera measures the difference between the light coming through the
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>>> lens onto the exposure meter cells and the light impinging on the little
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>>> frosted plastic window on front of the camera. It calculates from the
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>>> difference what the aperture value must be. It is not spot on but good
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>>> enough for record keeping.
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>>> Frank D.<<<<
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>>> HI Frank
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>>> Please accept this question not as some "smart-ass question from a
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>>> non-technical photographer?"
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>>> But please explain in common-man's language  "what does much of this
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>>> actually do for the quality of the photo content?" I read about this
>> stuff,
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>>> then look at some of the captured images with some of these so called
>> wonder
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>>> cameras  compared to those out of an M3--M5 --M6 and my immediate
>> re-action
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>>> is? "SO BIG DEAL THE PHOTO IS CRAP!"
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>>> If long before all this new fangled whiz-bang "COSTLY MANUFACTURING CAME
>> IN
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>>> VOGUE?" Creating a double, nay a tripling in some cases of a Leica cost.
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>>> Along with so much  other weird named stuff?
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>>> Many many people shot magnificent photo moments of incredible subjects
>> and
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>>> captured "LIFE TIME MOMENTS!". And some if not many? Are still doing so!
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>>> This stuff we're talking about, does it really really make your photos
>> rate
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>>> being on the cover of "LIFE? LOOK" PARIS MATCH, DER SPEGIAL????? NATIONAL
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>>> GEO?  If so then fair enough and I'll stop questioning all.
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>>> However? If it does diddlysquat but get the "belly hairs on some
>> scientific
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>>> gizmo designer excited?" Certainly without obvious in the image content?
>> Why
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>>> bother the buyers in doubling the cost of the cameras?
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>>> If whatever they add on will make my photos jump off the pages of my new
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>>> books? Fair enough, I'll shut up for ever! Now if ever there was a tough
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>>> call about me and equipment ????????? I'll have to bite my tounge very
>> hard!
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>>> :-(
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>>> Thank you for your usual kind and understanding responses.
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>>> cheers,
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>>> ted
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