[Leica] Anybody heard of Affinity!

Tue Feb 10 18:38:49 PST 2015

No I'll get too it (LR4) soon I'm sure its better than Bridge at this point
There are the LUG horror stories which come out regular as clockwork almost
with every upgrade on the perplexing complexities of "what happened to all
my pictures they are gone" and "there is no more space on my hard drive
because I clicked a button by mistake and now there is an entire database on
my system hard drive".
I've been not looking forward to that.

I do use the Adobe Camera Raw Filter whenever I open a Bridge file and that
gives me a slight taste as what it would be like to be working in Lightroom.

I gotta say though that when Photoshop came out I was using it first year
and it was your digital darkroom.
Kids played with it during recess they let them do that even when it was not
raining. The beginning of the obesity crisis.

Then Lightroom came out it was marketed for what it was a better contact
sheet thing for keeping track of all you pix on your hard drive.... AND you
can make them darker or lighter or add more contrast while you  were at it

And LightRoom was the appropriate word because that's where you kept your
LightBox. Next to your dry mount press and matt cutter in your Lightroom.
Now I'm supposed to develop my pictures in my LightRoom.
They need to change the metaphor. My pix will get fogged.

On 2/10/15 6:08 PM, "Geoff Hopkinson" <hopsternew at gmail.com> wrote:

> Mark I doubt that you want to be persuaded! Lightroom is up to 5.7 by the
> way. I don't even remember what the first version looked like.
> We couldn't have more different viewpoints it seems.
> Skepticism lies close to paralysis ;-)
> As I mentioned if you do want a comparison list your current processes and
> I shall show you the alternatives available.
> 
> 
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> 
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> 
> On Wednesday, February 11, 2015, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote:
> 
>> I had the first Lightroom.
>> 
>> This is the first I'd heard of image processing capabilities you can't get
>> in Photoshop that you can get in LightRoom.
>> Tell me what Lightroom can do that Photoshop can not?
>> Please let me count the ways!
>> 
>> Is LightRoom being marketed as a more powerful image processor than
>> Photoshop? I don't think so because its clearly not and remains a shortcut
>> to not using Photoshop.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 2/10/15 4:30 PM, "Geoff Hopkinson" <hopsternew at gmail.com <javascript:;>>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Mark you don't sound very familiar with Lightroom's capabilities!
>>> It is a better and more capable tool than Photoshop in many ways.
>>> Photoshop of course has developed as an enormously capable and complex
>>> program. It also has aspects completely irrelevant to many photographers.
>>> Notwithstanding the digital asset management capacity, purely as an image
>>> development tool, while using the identical raw processing engine, it
>>> provides some faster and better options than Photoshop with some
>> important
>>> advantages too.
>>> Try it for free (for 30 days I think) if you do want to learn what it can
>>> do.
>>> Or describe your typical steps in Ps currently starting with a new
>>> photoshoot set?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Cheers
>>> Geoff
>>> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman
>>> 
>>> On 11 February 2015 at 07:05, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com
>> <javascript:;>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I do think the top photogs and serious amateurs who use Lightroom not
>> just
>>>> as a starting point but as a finishing point on  all their image
>> processing
>>>> are not the same people who honed all their images in Photoshop since
>> the
>>>> early 1990's. To those photogs Photoshop is not such an easy thing to
>> give
>>>> up for a contact sheet program with a bunch of image processing sliders
>>>> added on later.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 2/10/15 3:41 PM, "Geoff Hopkinson" <hopsternew at gmail.com
>> <javascript:;>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Only for Mac currently it seems.
>>>>> While I do use the subscription arrangements for Photoshop and
>> Lightroom
>>>>> bundled together, Lightroom is still also available under the
>> traditional
>>>>> licensing arrangement (and of course bundled with many Leica products
>>>> that
>>>>> way).
>>>>> I find now that I am only using Ps as an adjunct to LR, that is from
>>>> within
>>>>> LR developing module where I need specialised tools. I would think that
>>>>> many photogs never use those though.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>> Geoff
>>>>> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 11 February 2015 at 06:21, Brian Reid <reid at mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
>> <javascript:;>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Wow. I will certainly try it. I've been using Photoshop since 1990,
>> and
>>>> I
>>>>>> absolutely love it, but I am very uneasy about their subscription
>> model
>>>> and
>>>>>> Photoshop CC. If Affinity actually does what I need, I will try to
>>>> switch.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 2/10/15 11:54am, Scott Gregory wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> http://www.creativebloq.com/computer-arts/first-real-
>>>>>>> alternative-photoshop-launched-and-its-free-21514137
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
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