[Leica] HDRitis?

Mark Rabiner mark at rabinergroup.com
Thu Aug 6 16:24:20 PDT 2015 

You've been saying for some time now on the LUG there's no market for
photography today photojournalism is over I'm not seeing that this thing
people are putting out along such lines as digital has ruined photography.
Art directors and editors know the different between a writer shooting
something with a cell phone and a serious dedicated photographer such as
yourself whose work has a distinctive look. With the length and breath of a
body of work such as yours I'd have an agent to be making these decisions it
think it should be pleasantly not impossible for you to land one.
I'd think the fist thing they'd tell you would be to consolidate where your
images are seen on the internet. And they'd have very specific ideas where.
Like on the website of the brick and mortar gallery your prints are being
sold at for four figures.


On 8/6/15 7:06 PM, "Tina Manley" <tmanley at gmail.com> wrote:

> Mark -
> 
> These days you have to do what you have to do.  There is no market for
> photography today because everybody has a camera or a phone and everybody
> is a photographer.  The galleries are looking for weird and way-out and
> that's not what I do.  I'm still selling stock and still making a living at
> it, but it gets worse every year.  All of the publishers want to use your
> photos for nothing and give you "exposure" which does not pay bills or buy
> cameras.  There are plenty of dentists with cameras who are willing to give
> their photos away to see their name in print (if their name is included,
> not usually)  Sorry to the dentists out there but they are the most obvious
> buyers of expensive cameras.
> 
> My canner is calling me.
> 
> Tina
> 
> On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 6:59 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote:
> 
>> Tina I took a glance here and some of  these images are HDR's then they are
>> not obviously so. Looks great!  Some of the black and whites seem low
>> contrast but I'm getting rid of this monitor and getting a MacBook pro with
>> Retina screen for my birthday. I'm sure they'd read better on that.
>> I've never known a photographer to be involved in so many internet photo
>> venues as you Tina!
>> In the past you've posted some HDR's to the LUG which really did look like
>> HDR's. Looks like you've figured the whole thing out since then.
>> Though if I was your agent I'd recommend not having your work on this
>> venue.
>> Its way beneath your work. I'm hoping a top legitimate art gallery
>> specializing in photography would not hold it against a photographer for
>> having their work on such a site. I'd think they would. You're selling your
>> images along people who got their camera yesterday and think they're
>> photographers today.
>> 
>> 
>> On 8/6/15 5:42 PM, "Tina Manley" <tmanley at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> I have 151 up there. Surely one is worthy!
>>> 
>>> http://fineartamerica.com/profiles/tina-manley.html?page=1
>>> 
>>> I've sold quite a few but the choices always surprise me.
>>> 
>>> Tina
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 5:39 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com>
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I've never yet seen one.
>>>> If you show me one I'll give you a million dollars.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 8/6/15 2:41 PM, "Bob Adler" <rgacpa at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I have actually seen some fine images there, Mark, but they are buried
>>>>> unless you know how to look for them.
>>>>> But I agree with you about the vast majority of images.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 8:28 AM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> The entire website of fine art America is the digital internet
>>>> equivalent
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> Elvis on velvet.  They are the enemy.
>>>>>> People are going to really think when you say "fine art photography"
>>>> that
>>>>>> you mean acrylic prints and greeting cards and an array of other
>>>> garbage.
>>>>>> People can use any words they want to can't they?
>>>>>> I can open a pizza joint and sell only hamburgers. See who sues me.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 8/5/15 10:42 PM, "Bob Adler" <rgacpa at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> It sells.  Look at the best sellers that are actual photographs (I
>>>>>> think) on
>>>>>>> Fineartamerica.com.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Landscape equivalent of Elvis on velvet.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Bob Adler
>>>>>>> Robert Adler Photography
>>>>>>> www.robertadlerphotography.com
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Aug 5, 2015, at 7:19 PM, Montie Talbert <montie at earthlink.net>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Just another implement in the digital toolbox, nice that its there
>> if
>>>>>> needed.
>>>>>>>> Agree with the over-done/over-use, however. Seems there's scarcely a
>>>>>> photo
>>>>>>>> website these days where you're not sufficiently blasted with it.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Montie
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I'm checking out a few camera clubs in the vicinity of my new home
>>>>>> and I'm
>>>>>>>> distresed by what I see as the overuse of the hdr look. Maybe it's
>> old
>>>>>>>> fogey me, but I find it nightmarish & oppressive.  How's it look to
>>>> the
>>>>>> LUG
>>>>>>>> dudes?
>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>> 
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>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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>> Mark William Rabiner
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>> 
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