[Leica] For Sale: pristine Nocti .95

Fri Apr 3 21:33:26 PDT 2015

I'm with you I believe in zero tolerance. A lens should work on all cameras.
Or something's rotten in the State of Wetzlar.

On 4/3/15 6:56 PM, "John McMaster" <john at mcmaster.co.nz> wrote:

> You shouldn't get it calibrated to a particular body, all lenses and bodies
> should be set to zero tolerance of what they should be. Solms had my M9 and f1
> but did not make them work well together, a lens specialist in NZ did the
> calibration after I got it back. My 75mm Summilux went to Solms three times
> before it focussed accurately. As others have said, try your lens on a digital
> body before you say it focusses perfectly....
> 
> john
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mark Rabiner
> 
> My Nocti f1  focused perfectly on two M6's. One much older than the other.
> So I'm not ok with the idea that its a thing you have to have specially
> calibrated for a certain body and so on. I think the thing just works.
> 
> 
> On 4/3/15 5:04 PM, "John McMaster" <john at mcmaster.co.nz> wrote:
> 
>> I don't tend to use my Noctilii at f5.6, nothing wrong with it just I
>> would use a different 50mm if I was expecting that. It can be
>> difficult to get the
>> f1 focussing calibrated accurately but it can be done. The 90AA is not
>> at its best at closer focussing distances, should be updated with FLE
>> like the 75AA....
>> 
>> john
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Mark Rabiner
>> 
>> I'm glad to know that John that the f1 has no problems with digital as
>> I thought there were a few threads to the effect on this list a  long
>> while back. And that this had been corroborated in the real world.
>> Having spent all that money on a lens I'm glad and gotten great
>> results with it with film its nice to know if I ever lay my hands on a
>> Monochrom or M240 I'd be able to shoot f1 with it and be there and get
>> that look. Didn't they say it messed up at f5.6? Focus shift?
>> If I ever got a digital M I'd certainly give it a shot.
>> Aspherically  I have the 21 and 24 Elmarit's, the 35 Summicron and the
>> 90 Apo asph Summicron another lens which in my dreams I heard people
>> saying was a problem with digital.
>> 
>> On 4/3/15 4:27 PM, "John McMaster" <john at mcmaster.co.nz> wrote:
>> 
>>> I own both Mark, not sure what issues the f1 has with digital? My f1
>>> focusses fine on all my Ms but the F0.95 front focusses slightly on
>>> the Monochrom :-( I enjoy my Leica lenses where I can get a very
>>> different, but equally good quality, images with a 75mm Summilux or
>>> the 75mm APO Summicron. I am not aware of any other system like this,
>>> with Hasselblad and Canikon etc you tend to need the latest lenses as
>>> they catch up ;-)
>>> 
>>> john
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From:  Mark Rabiner
>>> 
>>> I would also like to see side by side comparisons but the meantime
>>> I'd think the new lens is better than the old one (which I have) on
>>> all accounts. This is a key lens in the Leica lineup with high
>>> visibility promo value and the last lens Dr. Andreas Kaufmann is
>>> going to mess up in any respect.
>>> The f1 has trouble with digital. A huge embarrassment for the Leica company.
>>> This one costing three times more money and having the fastest design
>>> available is not going to have any glitches in it. Its going to be worth it.
>>> Leica has the resources to make sure this is the case.
>>> 
>>> Its common on at least this the list to assume that a lens with an
>>> aspheric element in it has a harsh look with ruined bokeh. Leica went
>>> to bed and woke up stupid.
>>> Its as if it goes without saying so that people will make solid
>>> statements to this effect without even seeing this first hand on a
>>> new lens it not questioned by anybody.
>>> I've have four M lenes with aspherics in them and have found that
>>> first hand to not be true. Each generation of Leica glass, Nikon too
>>> and I'd think Canon gets sharper with better contrast and god forbid
>>> they'd forget much better bokeh. As this aspect of a lens is all
>>> anyone cares or knows about any more.
>>> I find this worship of old glass to be puerile. Even multi coating is
>>> looked upon with a negative slant and older simpler coatings revered.
>>> They even say this improves film speed. Pay extra for a single coated
>>> lens. Less contrast means better shadow detail. Like never.
>>> The lens or camera companies are highly competitive and none of them
>>> are stupid. The general level of optical engineering improves every minute.
>>> I always with few exceptions get the latest a camera company has to
>>> offer unless I cant afford it or its no longer made or its more
>>> compact or something. If I get old glass I don't claim they make
>>> better images. They make cheaper images.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 4/3/15 3:18 PM, "John McMaster" <john at mcmaster.co.nz> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> The f1 can create 'dreamier' images, the f0.95 is a bit harsher. I
>>>> read a few years back about someone who had both; he used the f0.95
>>>> if he was going somewhere and had to get a photo (stopped down it is
>>>> almost as good as any Leica 50mm) but used the f1 in his own time
>>>> for personal images. The colours from the f0.95 and gorgeous but the
>>>> f1 is also significantly smaller and lighter!
>>>> 
>>>> john
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Or maybe it's just nostalgia...
>>>> 
>>>> Even if it's purely emotional, I just can't justify having something
>>>> this expensive that makes me feel guilty not loving it.
>>>> 
>>>> Sue
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On Apr 3, 2015, at 10:04 AM, Robert Adler <rgacpa at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> There is something lovely and unique about the "older" Notcti's
>>>>> indeed! I agree that there is some secret ingredient missing in the
>>>>> new 0.95's. I think if I were to see some side-by-side shots I
>>>>> might be able to better see a difference.
>>>>> Good luck with the sale: many love and produce beautiful images with it.
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> Bob
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 8:29 PM, Susan Ryan <skalte at icloud.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I shot maybe 100 images with it. Just don't love it the way I did my 1.0.
>>>>>> $9000. Photos available. Paypal preferred but we can discuss
>>>>>> alternatives if necessary. Contact me offlist.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sue Ryan
>>>>>> 
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