[Leica] THE YEARBOOK

[RicCarter]

amen!

ric


> On Dec 25, 2014, at 9:02 PM, Bernard Quinn <bjq1 at mac.com> wrote:
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> 
> Geoff,
> 
> I am both an Irish Catholic and a sensitive stink weed. I get upset easily and I make it a point to take all criticism personally. To make matters worse I also take my suffering very seriously. As far as I am concerned I think that you did a fabulous job on the year book. Three cheers for Geoff, I say.
> 
> I think that I can understand how you feel. I bet it could be summarized this way. I did all this work and what do I get for it? A heap of dog dung. Fair enough. You've got a point
> 
> But, let's think about this for a minute. The Internet can be a miracle. Using modern technology you have been able to create and edit a book of pictures taken by outstanding professional and amateur photographers from around the world. You have been able tondo this from the comfort if where ever the hell it is you have your monitor set up. The book gets printed god knows where and then sent to buyers anyone in the world. That is a major achievement on your part. 
> 
> I will tell you as a computer professional that there is also a part of the internet that I truly dislike, and that is the rough underside of its culture. It allows anyone with a bitch or a grievance, legitimate or illegitimate, to express it often in ways which are ill mannered or just plain rude. Often exchanges on the net are little more than urinating  contests or testosterone based contests to see who can dominate whom not unlike those favored by mountain goats in the wild. 
> 
> There are always people with dissatisfactions and complaints who are more than willing to express them. The net provides them with a marvelous ready made megaphone. That in no way detracts from your accomplishment. Please don't let it.
> 
> Barney
> 
> Barney Quinn, WK3Z
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>> On Dec 25, 2014, at 6:28 PM, Geoff Hopkinson <hopsternew at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I have done my best to explain and respond on this off list, starting at
>> 6am on Christmas day here where I got a request for an urgent response and
>> some comment that I found unreasonable. I have asked Roger to take any
>> further discussion on this onto the list now. If anyone else wants to
>> comment do please do so ON LIST too.
>> 
>> The price difference is USD 13.01 with the different paper choice. To the
>> best of my knowledge 'Premium lustre' is what Jim used previously before as
>> well.
>> I get nothing from the book whether there are 200 or five sold. The only
>> beneficiary is Project H.O.M.E., Jim's charity. Everyone is free to choose
>> whether they want to purchase it as always. I agree that the book is not
>> inexpensive and I made a $14.99 eBook option available. Actually if people
>> do not want to purchase the printed version in any version, you will be
>> making a larger donation to them by purchasing the eBook.
>> 
>> Blurb evidently pay any sales profit monthly. I have set that payment to be
>> in USD via Paypal which is the cheapest by far way of receiving any profits
>> on this. I shall transfer any payment made to me to Jim immediately by that
>> method too.
>> 
>> I did this to fulfill a promise I made to Brian and the list early in the
>> year. I think I did a good job for everyone and the reactions so far have
>> been almost uniformly positive except for this.
>> 
>> I will not be offering to edit any future version of the book for the list
>> should there be one.
>> 
>> 
>> Cheers
>> Geoff
>> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman
>> 
>>> On 26 December 2014 at 06:32, Roger Rubin <vroger at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I am fairly sure I oughtn't answer a comment while p***ed off, but I really
>>> have to take issue with Nathan's instructions:
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 3:29 PM, Nathan Wajsman <photo at frozenlight.eu>
>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Geoff, thank you for doing the job. I suggest that you let the
>>> complainers
>>>> go and* f**k themselves in the attic* and leave things as they are. I
>>> ordered
>>>> the book the other day and cannot wait to see it. You should not have to
>>>> spend any more time on complaints from sad anoraks.
>>>> 
>>>> Merry Christmas!
>>>> 
>>>> Nathan
>>>> 
>>>> Nathan Wajsman
>>> 
>>> At the outset I do not have an attic, and am generally not in need of
>>> "f**king" myself. (further expletive opinions deleted). I have let Geoff
>>> know privately that I consider almost $100 for this book to be excessive
>>> and as far as I am concerned an unconscionable increase in amount over the
>>> original price at which it was listed of $77.00. I personally would like
>>> the option of choosing the paper it is printed on (I understand that this
>>> is possible) and quite frankly, I am very surprised at the vehemence of
>>> Nathan's stated opinion, *which I take personally*. I have been buying the
>>> "best" version of the book since 2007 and have never felt the need
>>> to criticize, but the price as it stands is too high for me. Bests to all
>>> Roger Rubin (vroger)
>>> 
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