[Leica] Noctilux and Sony A7?

Bob Adler rgacpa at gmail.com
Sun Dec 14 19:19:37 PST 2014


Thanks Adam. Have fun in Yose!

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> On Dec 14, 2014, at 6:41 PM, Adam Bridge <abridge at mac.com> wrote:
> 
> I have this combination: Nocti and A7 and A7R and you’d be welcome to give the combo a shot. Of course I’m virtually next door to Steve.
> 
> I think Sony is homing in on how to handle the focusing interface. I’m interested in trying, hands on, the Fuji X1-T system which looks attractive to me. I do most of my focusing on the A7 & A7R in manual mode, even with Zeiss or Sony lenses that support auto-focus. Zooming in is great and you’re seeing what the sensor sees.
> 
> It’s curious but when I’m shooting by hand I use the A7. When I’m on a tripod I use the A7R to exploit the increased sensor size. The shutter on the R is clunky. Mostly I don’t miss the extra pixels. Maybe 24 Mpixels is a sweet spot? Although talk of a 45-50 MP model is intriguing. I find myself exploiting ISOs in the 4000-5000 range a lot, more than I ever imagined. There’s noise, sure, but wow, modern software in either Lightroom or Photoshop deals with it easily and when I compare it to scans of, say, Provia, the images are pretty darn nice.
> 
> Headed to Yosemite for a few days this week. Hoping for snow.
> 
> Adam
> 
>> On Dec 13, 2014, at 4:57 AM, Steve Barbour <steve.barbour at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>> On Dec 12, 2014, at 8:54 PM, Bob Adler <rgacpa at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> With the M it can be done at anytime with Live view. But does it matter? So you know it's out: now what? With the sony (or any EVF) WYSIWYG. 
>>> 
>>> I guess with the Sony, if there is little shutter lag, the EVF focusing would be great. Is there? Is the newest Sony quieter with less lag? The M's lag with EVF just kills getting the moment. Using the M's range finder is only limited by your predictive/reactive capabilities. Personally I think at close distance at f1 it's a crap shoot whatever you use. Chances are better the further away you get. Physics rules. 
>>> 
>>> I'd like to try a Sony someday. See how the Nocti works... Let's get together!!
>>> :-)
>> 
>> 
>> for sure Bob asap
>> 
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>> s
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>>> Sent from my iPad
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>>>> On Dec 12, 2014, at 4:52 PM, Steve Barbour <steve.barbour at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>>>> On Dec 12, 2014, at 4:48 PM, Lluis Ripoll <lluisripollphotography at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thank you Steve, This will be a very interesting test. I have to tell you that I’ve get a big improvement on my Lux 75 after I’ve sent it to Wetzlar to be calibrated, at the same time I’ve ordered add the 6 bit coding, but I think this has not any influence in focusing precision.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> calibration helps, but there is no way a week later or a year later, to know if it remains in the same good calibration....aye there's the rub...
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Amitiés
>>>>> Lluis
>>>>> 
>>>>>> El 13/12/2014, a las 01:40, Steve Barbour <steve.barbour at gmail.com> escribió:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Dec 12, 2014, at 4:25 PM, Lluis Ripoll <lluisripollphotography at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Your Hospital images are unforgettable!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> you are very kind Lluis, here I am thinking of the technical issues only, I may when time allows simply do a series of dandelion shots: w Nocti at f1   and Summilux 75mm at f1.4,  on the Sony 7,  to have a look...
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> steve
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Amitiés
>>>>>>> Lluis
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> El 13/12/2014, a las 01:16, Steve Barbour <steve.barbour at gmail.com> escribió:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Dec 12, 2014, at 4:07 PM, Lluis Ripoll <lluisripollphotography at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Sonny,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I’ve never owned a Noctilux, just play with some ones borrowed by friends but what do you say is in my opinion one of the characteristics things of this lens, it is difficult obtain a perfect picture but when yo got it it is exceptional…!
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> exactly Lluis, a major reason why it's difficult, is the need to obtain perfect  focus at f1. When you focus imo with a Sony EVF with focus peaking, it's far easier to nail the focus....
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> my experience with focussing a Noctilux at f1 derived from my earlier kids in hospital images....
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> steve
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>>>> Lluis
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> El 12/12/2014, a las 22:57, Sonny Carter <sonc.hegr at gmail.com> escribió:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> The point is to walk away with the image that you had in mind.  The image
>>>>>>>>>> that I wanted to show you.  Look! See what I see?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I was unsuccessful with a Noctilux and made maybe three really wonderful
>>>>>>>>>> shots in the year I owned it, and a couple dozen I liked.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> (Ironically, two of the shots were made into posters and sold several
>>>>>>>>>> hundred copies for the Natchitoches Historic Foundation.)
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> If I
>>>>>>>>>> ​still ​
>>>>>>>>>> had it with a Sony or an M, I would be out there with it glued to my
>>>>>>>>>> camera, because I'm crazy for available dark pictures
>>>>>>>>>> ​, and I know I'd be lovin' it and you guys would be lookin' at that EXIF
>>>>>>>>>> line and wishing you were me.  ;-)​
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Sonny
>>>>>>>>>> http://sonc.com/look/
>>>>>>>>>> Natchitoches, Louisiana
>>>>>>>>>> 1714
>>>>>>>>>> Oldest Permanent Settlement in the Louisiana Purchase
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> USA
>>>>>>>>>> 
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