[Leica] Leica M8 and M9 Sensor Problems?

[Robert Adler]

Thanks. Decisions to be made...

On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 3:06 PM, Geoff Hopkinson <hopsternew at gmail.com>
wrote:
>
> Bob, a show stopper if you think that any significant proportion of the
> Monochrom cameras have experienced a sensor issue. The risk of a defect is
> not zero of course. You could try to find any reported instances of this
> anywhere on the web perhaps? Make your own judgement on the internet
> discussions? Obviously there have been thousands of the M Monochrom
> manufactured and something more than 30,000 M9's at least.
>
> You could also read the official commitment and statement from Leica Camera
> on their websites/blog etc. Better than rumour sites!
> The RF is the same as for all M bodies from the M6 forward until the M (typ
> 240) of course.
> That in the M (typ 240) is calibrated to higher standards now with newer
> equipment too. I can't say if it is actually more robust. I never had an
> issue there from the M6 forward.
> I did manage to knock mine out of vertical displacement when I dropped it
> from standing onto stone cobbles. I can hardly complain at that. It is a
> tribute to how strong the new construction is though that the camera body
> got no more than 2 pin prick size marks on the top plate (yes the corner
> with the RF) on impact and bouncing after the hood on my lens was crushed
>
> A replacement monochrom version with the new sensor has been speculated at
> but I'm not aware of even a single rumour that this is going to happen.
> Their product cycle tends to be around 3 years for digital body designs,
> for whatever can be read into that!
>
> My personal choice for BW in this format is developing from the DNG
> originals from the M because I value its other improvements. For sure the
> Monochrom is being used to make some superb quality BW images.
>
>
> Cheers
> Geoff
> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman
>
> On 12 December 2014 at 08:44, Robert Adler <rgacpa at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > So I wonder if it's worth getting the MM... It has the M9 rangefinder
> > mechanism that is, frankly, pretty awful in holding alignment compared to
> > the 240 and now the sensor problems. As my Nocti would probably be glued
> to
> > the MM, this is probably show stopper. I can check the Nocti with the 240
> > live view: the RF is still aligned.
> >
> > Any opinions? Is there an MM 240 in the works??
> > Just mulling it all over.
> > Bob
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 8:31 AM, Robert Baron <robertbaron1 at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > You're right, it is just the M-9, M9-P, M-E and M Monochrom.  I misread
> > the
> > > portion about Past Issues.
> > >
> > > --Bob
> > >
> > > On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 10:25 AM, zoeica at mac.com <zoeica at mac.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > M8 used a different sensor so no affected. Sucks if Leica really knew
> > > > about this when manufacturing was taking place.
> > > >
> > > > Yes, it's nothing new in the digital age. Both Canon and Nikon have
> had
> > > > sensor issues before and both were slow to acknowledge it even though
> > it
> > > > was clearly an issue with users.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Chris Williams
> > > > www.zoeicaimages.net
> > > > 504-231-6261
> > > >
> > > > ----- Reply message -----
> > > > From: "Robert Baron" <robertbaron1 at gmail.com>
> > > > To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org>
> > > > Subject: [Leica] Leica M8 and M9 Sensor Problems?
> > > > Date: Tue, Dec 9, 2014 11:16 AM
> > > >
> > > > I just stumbled across this and wondered if it had been discussed on
> > the
> > > > LUG  (I'm a very sporadic reader lately):
> > > >
> > > > http://lavidaleica.com/content/new-leica-ccdgate-scandal-afoot
> > > >
> > > > It is a pretty long piece but if you read it to the bottom you'll
> > perhaps
> > > > find some troubling - if true - information.  On the other hand, this
> > all
> > > > may just be 'the cost of doing business' in the digital age.
> > > >
> > > > --Bob
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
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> >
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> > Bob Adler
> >
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-- 
Bob Adler