[Leica] Kodak Chemistry going forward
Mark Rabiner
mark at rabinergroup.com
Wed Dec 3 13:28:50 PST 2014
Yes it does and I used it at 1:3 to make sure of that.
Will be interested to see though at least for me how the Metol/phenidone
might look instead. But coming from me I may never know I'll be seeing it
from others.
p-Methylaminophenol sulfate
HOC6H4NH2(CH3)]HSO4
Known as:
Elon
Genol
Graphol
p-Hydroxymethylaniline Sulfate
Methylaminophenol Sulfate
Metol
Monomethyl-p-Amino-Phenol Sulfate
Monol
Pertol
Photol
Photo-Rex
Pictol
Planetol
Rhodol
Satrapol
Scalol
Vera
Woof!
On 12/3/14 3:25 PM, "Lew Schwartz" <lew1716 at gmail.com> wrote:
> XTOL/MYTOL both create good adjacency effects at higher dilutions, same as
> D76.
>
>
> -Lew Schwartz
>
> On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 2:29 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote:
>
>> The reason why I'd really look forward to trying the D76 with ascorbic acid
>> is the Metol used instead of Phenidone.
>> Xtol is not a pushing formula you are using the iso number on your box of
>> film. Same as D76 for the most part.
>> Metol I prefer to Phenidone because its a sharper and more clearer looking
>> developer than Phenidone. Much better adjacency effects. Good ones.
>> So if Xtol goes under you can mix up your own with Phenidone or Metol/Elon
>> whatever you want. I'd go with the latter. Or at least try it. The water in
>> NY has a varied history.
>>
>> Xtol has been a miracle paradigm shifter for darkroom work. But its miracle
>> mainly is the use of acerbic acid as a developing agent. And that can be
>> applied to a lot of different pre existing formulas even ones not based on
>> Phenidone.
>>
>>
>> On 12/3/14 2:13 PM, "Lew Schwartz" <lew1716 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> The phenidone in XTOL affords a reliably higher iso than D76 type
>>> developers (at the cost of pushability), plus you can replenish XTOL with
>>> more XTOL. The same is true for the published MYTOL formulas. I used the
>>> same 1gal of XTOL, replenished for each roll of film, for over a year
>>> before I started digital. It was still working just fine when I dumped
>> it.
>>>
>>>
>>> -Lew Schwartz
>>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 2:05 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> If you added a tap of ascorbic acid (vitamins C) as a friend of mine
>> did to
>>>> just mixed up D76 1:1 you'd find the results not that far from Xtol and
>>>> maybe even better. Actually a lot of people did this. Still doing it
>> maybe.
>>>> Xtol without the fear.
>>>> If your ascorbic acid (maybe just get some in powder from either from a
>>>> drugstore or a photo place) is a little chunky looking as in not fully
>>>> dissolved I'd not worry about it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 12/3/14 12:12 PM, "Lew Schwartz" <lew1716 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> As I get ready to resume darkroom work, I'm looking to mix up my
>>>> favorite,
>>>>> XTOL. I'm apprehensive that it's availability is uncertain due to the
>>>>> bankruptcy. I'm surprised, however, not to find any concern about this
>>>>> anywhere. Has Kodak assured us that the photo chemical division is
>> alive
>>>> &
>>>>> well going forward?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -Lew Schwartz
>>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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