[Leica] [OM] And now a Lightroom question

Wed Dec 3 08:17:53 PST 2014

So, if you were to stop paying, you can still use CC in it's present state 
for as long as you would like? It just would not update?  Or would it at 
some time disable itself so you could no longer use it?  That is  my fear. 
what if a few years down the road it gets too expensive for me, so I decide 
I can no longer afford it, not being a professional.  Would I be able to 
still use what I have?  Have I paid for it or just rented it and it will be 
repossessed?

so far CS6 does everything I want and of course my LR is mine, all mine.

Aram

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From: "Tina Manley" <tmanley at gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2014 3:47 PM
To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org>
Subject: Re: [Leica] [OM] And now a Lightroom question

> The only connection that Photoshop CC has to the cloud is that it connects
> occasionally to confirm your subscription and to download upgrades.  It is
> not connected all the time.  You do not have to have a connection to the
> internet to use it.  Nothing is stored on the cloud unless you request it
> to be.  All of my files are stored on my external hard drives.  The 
> program
> resides in my computer, just like Photoshop 1,2,3,4,5,6, etc.  I cannot
> understand the reluctance to upgrade to this most efficient and productive
> version of PS.
>
> Tina
>
> On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 6:44 PM, Lluis Ripoll <
> lluisripollphotography at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Just to add my 5 cents to this topic, I’m not in the Cloud, I use LR5 for
>> the scanned negatives only, my usual software is Capture One 8Pro, I’m 
>> used
>> to it and very happy.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Lluis
>>
>> El 03/12/2014, a las 00:39, Tina Manley <tmanley at gmail.com> escribió:
>>
>> > Yes, I have the same knife. Love Wusthof knives!!
>> >
>> > Tina
>> >
>> > On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 6:38 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Me too!
>> >>
>> >> Though I always slice my own bread... With a Wüsthof 23 cm bread knife
>> from
>> >> sunny Germany. Goes through bread like butter!
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 12/2/14 3:18 PM, "Tina Manley" <tmanley at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> I think Photoshop CC is the best thing since sliced bread!  I
>> subscribed
>> >>> immediately and don't regret it.
>> >>>
>> >>> Tina
>> >>>
>> >>> On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 3:15 PM, Geoff Hopkinson 
>> >>> <hopsternew at gmail.com>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> Eh? You can use or not use any early version or the latest of
>> Lightroom
>> >> for
>> >>>> which you have a perpetual licence for as long as you want under the
>> >>>> licence conditions that have applied from the very first.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> There is no obligation to move to the subscription model for
>> Lightroom.
>> >>>> If you use both Lightroom and Photoshop in working with your images
>> then
>> >>>> you can get that bundle if you want. Basically a 12 month commitment
>> to
>> >>>> start.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> For me, that deal is excellent value. So much so that I don't even 
>> >>>> use
>> >> the
>> >>>> couple of perpetual licence models I have of both Lightroom and
>> >> Photoshop.
>> >>>> I really like the integration and the immediate availability of the
>> new
>> >>>> features
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Obviously how much you use the programs will influence their value 
>> >>>> to
>> >> you.
>> >>>> Or if you consider Adobe (and Microsoft I suppose) as devils 
>> >>>> incarnate
>> >>>> determined to feast on your soul!
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Cheers
>> >>>> Geoff
>> >>>> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On 2 December 2014 at 21:00, Douglas Barry <imra at iol.ie> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> My copy of LR is 1.1 or something and my version of PSE is 4, but 
>> >>>>> my
>> >> old
>> >>>>> Dell pc is 2005, and works too. I'm upgrading the pc when I move
>> house
>> >>>> in a
>> >>>>> couple of weeks, but at 10 dollars a month and initial costs, it
>> looks
>> >>>> like
>> >>>>> a future haemorrhage of money from me to Adobe for little real
>> benefit.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Douglas
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Geoff Hopkinson" <
>> >>>> hopsternew at gmail.com
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org>
>> >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2014 10:24 AM
>> >>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] [OM] And now a Lightroom question
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> You can continue with the perpetual licence arrangement as always 
>> >>>>> if
>> >> you
>> >>>>>> wish.
>> >>>>>> Note that the current version is 5.7.
>> >>>>>> As has been the case the point updates are free. Once LR6 arrives,
>> >>>>>> whenever
>> >>>>>> it does, you will need to pay for the upgrade. Of course if you 
>> >>>>>> buy
>> >>>>>> something Leica new they will include a copy ;-) ;-)
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Here the subscription model with Photoshop CC here costs annually
>> >> $10, a
>> >>>>>> new copy $175 and an upgrade $100.
>> >>>>>> Those are very compelling numbers for me even without Photoshop 
>> >>>>>> but
>> I
>> >>>>>> haven't convinced you have I Nathan? ;-) ;-)
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Cheers
>> >>>>>> Geoff
>> >>>>>> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> On 2 December 2014 at 18:11, Nathan Wajsman <photo at frozenlight.eu>
>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Thanks to all who responded. It is clear that I need to upgrade to
>> >> LR5,
>> >>>>>>> so
>> >>>>>>> I will bite the bullet and do so. As long as I am not forced in
>> >> Adobe's
>> >>>>>>> cloud service, it is OK.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Cheers,
>> >>>>>>> Nathan
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Nathan Wajsman
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Alicante, Spain
>> >>>>>>> http://www.frozenlight.eu
>> >>>>>>> http://www.greatpix.eu
>> >>>>>>> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws
>> >>>>>>> Blog: http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Cycling: http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> YNWA
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> On 02 Dec 2014, at 07:26, Nathan Wajsman <photo at frozenlight.eu>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> I just discovered that my Lightroom 4.4 does not recognise the
>> Fuji
>> >>>
>> >>>>>>> XT-1
>> >>>>>>> files. Poking around Adobe's sites I see no upgrade that would 
>> >>>>>>> let
>> me
>> >>>>>>> read
>> >>>>>>> those files directly into LR. So I am right now converting to DNG
>> >> using
>> >>>>>>> their converter and will then import those.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Are my choices really limited to using this clunky 2-step 
>> >>>>>>>> process
>> >> and
>> >>>>>>> upgrading to LR5, something which I otherwise have no reason to 
>> >>>>>>> do?
>> >>>> (and
>> >>>>>>> no, I am not interested in other RAW converters or in shooting
>> JPG).
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Cheers,
>> >>>>>>>> Nathan
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Nathan Wajsman
>> >>>>>>>> Alicante, Spain
>> >>>>>>>> http://www.frozenlight.eu
>> >>>>>>>> http://www.greatpix.eu
>> >>>>>>>> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws
>> >>>>>>>> Blog: http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/
>> >>>>>>>> Cycling: http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator
>> >>>>>>>> YNWA
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
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