[Leica] LUG & Blurb question

Sat Nov 29 16:13:24 PST 2014

I stand corrected (and should have checked all eight editions)--you were
indeed in '06 and '07.

However, you've just given a superb reason why I had no further interest
in producing the yearbook.  I was sick of your garbage, and similar
diatribes from non-contributors (at least within the 2010s).

Prattle on!  You have every right to do so.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+jshulman=judgecrater.com at leica-users.org] On
Behalf Of Mark Rabiner
Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 6:59 PM
To: Leica Users Group
Subject: Re: [Leica] LUG & Blurb question

I was in the first two issues, Ted. Two pix each all taken with Leica
cameras. All taken the same year they were published.

On 11/29/14 6:57 PM, "Ted Grant" <tedgrant at shaw.ca> wrote:

> AND FROM THE DARKENED HALLS OF THE PAST.................. A MAJOR
> BITE!!!!!!! And the quiet was deafening!
>
> cheers,
> Dr.ted
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+tedgrant=shaw.ca at leica-users.org] On
> Behalf Of Jim Shulman
> Sent: November-29-14 3:26 PM
> To: Leica Users Group
> Subject: Re: [Leica] LUG & Blurb question
>
> The way I think about it is that in order to proffer suggestions you
> should be a part of the yearbook.
> As in as a participant.
>
> I checked the 2013 yearbook, and checked it twice.
> You didn't submit a thing.
> I checked the 2012 yearbook, and checked it twice.
> You didn't submit a thing.
> Same for 2011.  I didn't go back any further, but to the best of my
> knowledge the LUG yearbooks have yet to be graced by your images.
>
> Did it ever occur to you, Mark, that you're part of the problem?
> Geoff and, for eight years, I received lots and lots of suggestions,
> gripes, requests, and relatively few entries.  I noted that the people
> with the greatest number of suggestions, or gripes about the
> admittedly elementary submission guidelines, were almost never
contributors.
>
> So put up or shut up.  There's still about a half-month to submit your
> images.
>
> Jim
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: LUG
> [mailto:lug-bounces+jshulman=judgecrater.com at leica-users.org] On
> Behalf Of Mark Rabiner
> Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 1:12 PM
> To: Leica Users Group
> Subject: Re: [Leica] LUG & Blurb question
>
> They way I think about it is if you're going to do something why not
> let more than just a few people see it? I love books I'm about to hit
> some bookstores this afternoon made a list checking it twice but for
> every person who reads and looks at paper there's thousands who are
> getting the same words and pix as pixels.
> I love PDF 's. I think the guy you invented them should get the Noble
> Peace prize. If I'd gone to the trouble to layout a photo book such as
> this it would drive my crazy not being able to press the "make PDF
button"
> in the end. If you think about it the preview software which lets
> people peek into the book on the website has kind of done that.
> I think when people know ahead of time that the layout will be
> electronically disseminated few if any would have a problem with that.
> If they do let them rot in their own hells.
> People want to  see their book on their iPad's  and iPhones.
> More importantly they want to never put their iPad's and iPhones down.
> They want to keep staring at them.
> Let them.
>
> That said I don't think the reason behind a LUG book such as this is
> to make money. How many extra copies did they sell does anyone know?
> If there really is a market for a book such as the LUG Yearbook than
> in electronic form I'd wager that market would be 100x.  ... To 1000x.
>
>
> On 11/28/14 11:15 PM, "Geoff Hopkinson" <hopsternew at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I did a test convert of another non-related photobook that I edited
>> and published an eBook version as a test. I don't have my iPad with
>> me to check as yet, but it looks like it should work fine on IOS
>> devices, not just iPads.
>> When you buy you get a download link in a mail to be opened on the
>> device where you want to download it. In other words, one download,
>> one
> device.
>> I shall report in when I get that test on on my (first) iPad which
>> went to a family meber who will like to have that particular book.
>>
>> My intent introducing the eBook this year was to broaden the sales
>> while each copy (print or electronic) will generate exactly the same
>> markup for Jim's charity. As a glass half full approach I hope that
>> people will enjoy having the printed volume on their shelf to enjoy
>> and perhaps add an eBook to their order.
>>
>> However, I have no connection with all eight books that Jim did with
>> us of course, except to be in them all.
>> I would note that it does require some work to convert each book and
>> then publish it.
>> Of course it is entirely up to Jim on whether this option (not always
>> available) is worth doing and if he wants to be pushed out of
>> retirement to work again on any of those eight!
>> For whatever my opinion is worth, I thinks it's a big ask on Jim
>> after eight years of a lot of work for us all.
>>
>> Don't blame me, Jim, sorry. I hope my decision for THIS year will
>> mean more copies sold than we would have otherwise and more money to
>> your
> charity.
>>
>>
>> Cheers
>> Geoff
>> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman
>>
>> On 29 November 2014 at 13:12, Jay Burleson <leica at jayburleson.com>
> wrote:
>>
>>> Looking at a post today and a question was asked about the proposed
>>> e-book version of this years book.
>>>
>>> What I am wondering, is if the previous years books can be changed
>>> in Blurb to add an e-book option?
>>>
>>> It would be a way for folks to add to their collection at a
>>> reasonable cost, plus add some more to the donation funds.
>>>
>>> Any ideas, Jim?
>>>
>>> Jay
>>>
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