[Leica] LUG & Blurb question

Sat Nov 29 15:57:45 PST 2014

AND FROM THE DARKENED HALLS OF THE PAST.................. A MAJOR
BITE!!!!!!! And the quiet was deafening!

cheers,
Dr.ted

-----Original Message-----
From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+tedgrant=shaw.ca at leica-users.org] On Behalf Of
Jim Shulman
Sent: November-29-14 3:26 PM
To: Leica Users Group
Subject: Re: [Leica] LUG & Blurb question

The way I think about it is that in order to proffer suggestions you
should be a part of the yearbook.
As in as a participant.

I checked the 2013 yearbook, and checked it twice.
You didn't submit a thing.
I checked the 2012 yearbook, and checked it twice.
You didn't submit a thing.
Same for 2011.  I didn't go back any further, but to the best of my
knowledge the LUG yearbooks have yet to be graced by your images.

Did it ever occur to you, Mark, that you're part of the problem?  Geoff
and, for eight years, I received lots and lots of suggestions, gripes,
requests, and relatively few entries.  I noted that the people with the
greatest number of suggestions, or gripes about the admittedly elementary
submission guidelines, were almost never contributors.

So put up or shut up.  There's still about a half-month to submit your
images.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+jshulman=judgecrater.com at leica-users.org] On
Behalf Of Mark Rabiner
Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 1:12 PM
To: Leica Users Group
Subject: Re: [Leica] LUG & Blurb question

They way I think about it is if you're going to do something why not let
more than just a few people see it? I love books I'm about to hit some
bookstores this afternoon made a list checking it twice but for every
person who reads and looks at paper there's thousands who are getting the
same words and pix as pixels.
I love PDF 's. I think the guy you invented them should get the Noble
Peace prize. If I'd gone to the trouble to layout a photo book such as
this it would drive my crazy not being able to press the "make PDF button"
in the end. If you think about it the preview software which lets people
peek into the book on the website has kind of done that.
I think when people know ahead of time that the layout will be
electronically disseminated few if any would have a problem with that. If
they do let them rot in their own hells.
People want to  see their book on their iPad's  and iPhones.
More importantly they want to never put their iPad's and iPhones down.
They want to keep staring at them.
Let them.

That said I don't think the reason behind a LUG book such as this is to
make money. How many extra copies did they sell does anyone know?
If there really is a market for a book such as the LUG Yearbook than in
electronic form I'd wager that market would be 100x.  ... To 1000x.

On 11/28/14 11:15 PM, "Geoff Hopkinson" <hopsternew at gmail.com> wrote:

> I did a test convert of another non-related photobook that I edited
> and published an eBook version as a test. I don't have my iPad with me
> to check as yet, but it looks like it should work fine on IOS devices,
> not just iPads.
> When you buy you get a download link in a mail to be opened on the
> device where you want to download it. In other words, one download, one
device.
> I shall report in when I get that test on on my (first) iPad which
> went to a family meber who will like to have that particular book.
>
> My intent introducing the eBook this year was to broaden the sales
> while each copy (print or electronic) will generate exactly the same
> markup for Jim's charity. As a glass half full approach I hope that
> people will enjoy having the printed volume on their shelf to enjoy
> and perhaps add an eBook to their order.
>
> However, I have no connection with all eight books that Jim did with
> us of course, except to be in them all.
> I would note that it does require some work to convert each book and
> then publish it.
> Of course it is entirely up to Jim on whether this option (not always
> available) is worth doing and if he wants to be pushed out of
> retirement to work again on any of those eight!
> For whatever my opinion is worth, I thinks it's a big ask on Jim after
> eight years of a lot of work for us all.
>
> Don't blame me, Jim, sorry. I hope my decision for THIS year will mean
> more copies sold than we would have otherwise and more money to your
charity.
>
>
> Cheers
> Geoff
> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman
>
> On 29 November 2014 at 13:12, Jay Burleson <leica at jayburleson.com>
wrote:
>
>> Looking at a post today and a question was asked about the proposed
>> e-book version of this years book.
>>
>> What I am wondering, is if the previous years books can be changed in
>> Blurb to add an e-book option?
>>
>> It would be a way for folks to add to their collection at a
>> reasonable cost, plus add some more to the donation funds.
>>
>> Any ideas, Jim?
>>
>> Jay
>>
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