[Leica] My next Leica camera is a Sony A7

Sat Nov 1 16:55:26 PDT 2014

Except that a Leica R lens operates with more ease on an A series Sony than
it does on any yet built M Leica.

The A7s seems to have also solved the problems of wide angle Leica and V/C
M lenses relative to real world use.

It is not with humor or irony that I report this. It is with observation
and experience.

On Sat, Nov 1, 2014 at 6:37 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote:

> On these points of rhetoric I agree whole heartedly here with Geoff.
> I don't see the positive point in declaring that a camera which we can get
> to fit a Leica lens on it is a Leica camera. There is no humor or irony in
> it that I can tell.
>
>
> On 11/1/14 7:22 PM, "Geoff Hopkinson" <hopsternew at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > A good title for this thread might be:
> > My next camera is a (fill in the blank whatever you want) ;-)
> >
> > speaking only for myself. My next Leica camera will be a Leica camera.
> > I haven't worn out current ones yet though but 16000 images and counting
> so
> > far in 2014.
> >
> >
> >
> > Cheers
> > Geoff
> > http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman
> >
> > On 2 November 2014 09:03, Jim Gmail <jplaurel at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> A7 is not optimal with wide M-mount wide angle  lenses, is it? Your M9
> >> will still give much better results shorter than 50 or 35mm, no?
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >>> On Nov 1, 2014, at 15:49, "Frank Filippone" <red735i at verizon.net>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Looking for the ideal camera:  Lots of pixels, EVF, accepts Leica glass
> >> if
> >>> possible, AF when I need it, MF and attendant focusing aids otherwise,
> >> not
> >>> $8K, takes SDHC cards, great and dependable metering system, Full
> Frame,
> >> not
> >>> a cropped sensor, etc.  Built in flash is a bonus.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> What got me hooked was the EVF, and especially the enlarged EVF.... It
> is
> >>> addictive to be able to focus with a magnified view.   I noticed this
> on
> >> the
> >>> Fuji XE-1 I have, but the time delay from pushing the button and
> >> something
> >>> happening was too long .  Maybe a XT-1 or XE-2 would have fixed that,
> but
> >>> then I would have had a cropped sensor, and I am a WA type of person..
> >> Not a
> >>> great combo.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I have an M9.  It is a great camera, but focusing is not optimum.
> Lenses
> >>> over 90mm are really hard to compose as the VF is pretty much a Hail
> >> Mary at
> >>> that stage.  Some would say, go buy an M(240).  It offers a similar set
> >> of
> >>> specs as I want.  Easy to say, hard to part with the money for the
> >> M(240).
> >>> And the next iteration of Leica is bound to be yet another $1K.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I just received my new Sony A7.  Had a cheapo Leica M to Sony mount
> >> adapter
> >>> hanging about, just in case I eventually bought the A7.  Slapped on a
> 50
> >>> ASPH Lux.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> The benefit of more pixels is primarily the ability to NOT carry a long
> >>> lens.  You crop the image.  Saves weight.  Saves money ( no lens to
> >> purchase
> >>> ).  I was not terribly into the pixel count issues, it is a nice side
> >>> benefit as I very rarely carry a long (over 75 or 90mm) lens.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> When the opportunity presented itself, I decided to try out the A7 over
> >> the
> >>> XT-1.  ( used, thanks to Doug, and his friend)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> The image quality, with the A7 + Cheapo ( $12) Adapter + that LENS!!!
> >> And I
> >>> am just blown away with the resolution.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> At roughly 200 yards, at F2 ( and probably 1/8000 of a second) I was
> >> able to
> >>> distinguish a hawk sitting on the electrical poles near the house. For
> >>> reference, the hawk was most likely 12-15 inches tall.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> At about 6 yards, same exposures setup, I was able to distinguish the
> >> marks
> >>> on the head of an old, crusty, 6 penny nail in my fence. Focus accuracy
> >> is
> >>> astonishing.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Metering is superb.something Leica's pseudo spot meter lacks.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> There is basically no delay from pushing the button to getting the
> >> shutter
> >>> to open.  Even in magnified focusing mode.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> This kind of change does have its downsides.. My LR V4.4 will not read
> >> the
> >>> Sony files, but Adobe DNG Converter fixes that;  There is no in camera
> >>> correction for vignetting nor "distortion" ( as if Leica's pride and
> joy
> >>> mainstream lens needs too much); there is no EXIF file data to remember
> >>> which lens you had on at any time ( which would not be at all important
> >>> except for operations of vignetting and distortion correction.)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> The camera does not have the same solid feel as a Leica ( any Leica
> >> short of
> >>> the CL and maybe the P+S models).  It will probably die faster than a
> M3
> >>> would.. Then again..
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I need to become more familiar with the operational buttons, and menus,
> >>> however, I was able to get the camera working a bit more like I want
> it.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I wish more than ever that I had a fleet of Leica R glass, but not a
> >> single
> >>> one was ever in my kit.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> It is not going with me tonight to shoot some fun fotos of a adult
> >> birthday
> >>> party.  No twinkle flash.  Then again, nothing really is ideal.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Frank Filippone
> >>>
> >>> Red735i at verizon.net
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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