[Leica] Leica Porn

Mon Sep 22 00:00:37 PDT 2014

Dear Dr Ted, I have the utmost respect for your skill and body of work and
of course we are good friends. No doubt I am more enthusiastic for the
brand than many on the list.

I cannot agree with you that the production of a few collectors' edition
cameras along the way (and this is not new) has in any way disowned
photographers who use their normal serial production cameras. Those
collector editions I imagine help pay the bills and there is obviously a
market for them so why not.

Well a wise old Canadian Photojournalist has more than once reminded me to
stop talking and shoot more so I'm back to editing and posting new work. I
 have had my S2 for two months and I just checked. I am up to photo number
5884 with it so far. I think about 11000 with my M (typ 240) !

So I promise that I have not felt disowned by the appearance of some more
collectibles on the occasions of Leica Camera;s Centennial and the 6oth
Birthday of the M system ;-)

Cheers
Geoff
http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman

On 22 September 2014 15:13, Ted Grant <tedgrant at shaw.ca> wrote:

> Hi George,
> I'm not talking  about the M8-9 and a couple of others. these cameras are
> cool as I use M8's for all my  medical work and assignments without the
> blink of an eye.
>
> What I'm referring to are the multi-multi thousand dollar ones that quite
> probably 99% of photojournalists today can't afford! ergo: LEICA HAS
> DISOWNED THOUSANDS UPON THOUSANDS OF THEIR DEDICATED USERS AND BELIVERS.
> LIKE MOST OF THE LUG CREW!During much of my career I bought and had on hand
> and in use 8 or 9 LEICAS, various bodies and a bag full of lenses and
> always
> of the newest versions available along with lenses from the 15mm super
> wides
> to 400mm 2.8 and a bunch in between. I was and have been an absolute
> believer in and follower of LEICA for at least 50-55 years damn near every
> day on assignments of some kind.
>
> I Lectured on the beauty/quality and efficiency of LEICA gear as the lead
> lecturer at the world famous LEICA SEMINAR held on Cape Cod for 16 years.
> Making me a senior none staff Leica user responsible for many hundreds of
> thousands of dollars of sold "LEICA GEAR DURING THAT TIME." As I was
> informed by a Leica Sales REP in the USA! And quite frankly I'm quite proud
> my influence was responsible for those sales and certainly that amount.
> Which of course doesn't take into account the hundreds of lectures to media
> groups, professional photographer associations and universities.
>
> And an endless number of amateur groups across North America! ALWAYS
> PLUGGING AND SHOWING SLIDE IMAGES BY THE THOUSANDS FROM REAL-TIME
> ASSIGNMNETS USING LEICA GEAR AND LENSES!!!!!!! And not once did I ever
> receive a free Leica camera or lens in all those 50 years!! In most cases I
> had already bought the newest gear on the market so no need of a free one!.
>
> It's just today every time we , that's we all of us on the lug can't just
> walk in to a camera store and say... "hey I'll take the new LEICA B&W
> camera." Why? Hell man how many have $22,000 in yer back pocket to pay for
> it ? The M cameras? Heck they're also at the top end of cost. AND AT THE
> MOMENT BEYOND MY REACH! :-(
>
> Yeah so my previous post was a tad bitchie. But I can say quite honestly in
> my regular assignment days I would have 3 R8's with motors attached... 2 on
> my left shoulder and the third on the right and it usually with the 280mm
> f2.8 And that didn't include the usual 3 M cameras hanging around my neck.
> All with different lenses!
>
> And yes I think there might be the odd LUG member who were attending the
> CAPE COD SEMINAR 1993?-1994? when I had all my gear with me? One year or
> the
> other?
>
> But as I've said many times about the LOTTERY? ;-) If I win big? DOLLARS
> THAT IS! :-) I'LL BUY WHATEVER LEICA IS THE HOTTEST and looks great with my
> new suit! ;-) If it's easy to use? That'll be even better! :-) :-)
>
> cheers and good night.
>
> Dr. ted :-)
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+tedgrant=shaw.ca at leica-users.org] On Behalf
> Of
> George Lottermoser
> Sent: September-21-14 8:46 PM
> To: Leica Users Group
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Leica Porn
>
> Bullshit.
> The DMR, M8, M9, M (240), M Moncrom, S2, and S
> are fully capable professional tools;
> as well as complete system cameras
> which use some of the finest lenses available for photography.
>
> Professional work is being done and published with these tools
> right along with the other fine cameras available from other mfgs
> which sell for as much or more money.
>
> a note off the iPad, George
>
> On Sep 21, 2014, at 8:27 PM, Ted Grant <tedgrant at shaw.ca> wrote:
>
> > These new DINKEY TOY LEICA's aren't made for real photojournalists!
> They're
> > made for hanging around your neck if you're some  dumb ass dilettante who
> > knows absolutely nothing about photography but has far too much money for
> > his/her own good!"
>
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