[Leica] Alternative to the Monochrom! GET A DIGILUX 2?

Sat Sep 20 21:03:35 PDT 2014

I wrote one.
Said the Monochrom was worth it. A simple one layer monochrome sensor making
for clean pix and why don't you look at Tina's!?!? I went on and on. Maybe
it hit a cloud in the Van Allen belt?!?!
Said I'd kill for one.!!

On 9/20/14 11:52 PM, "Ted Grant" <tedgrant at shaw.ca> wrote:

> HI CREW!
> 
> I'm so excited by the zero response about the wonders of the LEICA DIGILUX
> 2!!! :-) :-) 
> 
> And here we've had great babble sessions about the new hot-dog B&W model
> Leica's. I did expect at least one comment on the DIGILUX 2 and the most
> interesting qualities using it as a B&W camera digital long before all these
> new hot-dog B&W LEICA's came on the market. I suppose the reason for no
> responses are?????? Only a few of us have them and or use them.
> 
> And when we have something that works extremely well while allowing us to
> see our B&W images in the view-finder
> as a B&W scene before you click! Are there no Leica-fans out there with some
> kind of comment, ACTUALLY GOOD BAD OR LOUSY?
> 
> The most interesting parts about the DIGILUX 2 is....... The view-finder
> showing your image in complete B&W configuration! You immediately see it in
> B&W and does it "LOOK COOL? Or not?" To CLICK OR NOT? IF YOUR A B&W PERSON I
> truly feel you'll enjoy shooting B&W simply because you see the image in B&W
> and it captures a pretty good quality photo without any fiddling switching
> from colour to B&W.
> 
> As I said earlier, it makes pretty good 13X19 print size, auto-focus and
> auto-aperture. As well MACRO-AUTO FOCUSING THROUGH OUT the full range of
> focus.
> 
> Jeeeesh I'm beginning to sound like a LEICA sales-man! :-) :-) I do like the
> camera very much as it's quick to use on so many assignment subjects
> rendering a very fine image quality..
> 
> So OK CREW come on, surely somebody has a word or two on this most
> interesting camera????? GOOD, BAD OR WHY NOT?
> 
> cheers,
> Dr, ted :-) 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+tedgrant=shaw.ca at leica-users.org] On Behalf Of
> Ted Grant
> Sent: September-19-14 11:13 PM
> To: 'Leica Users Group'
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Alternative to the Monochrom
> 
> HI CREW,
> I'm going to ask a real dumb ass question about the LEICA DIGILUX 2! I bet
> not many of you have one nor used one before your eye?
> 
> This camera can shoot black & white and through the view finder the scene or
> situation you are viewing is B&W! WOW WHAT A NEAT SCENE! CLICK!
> 
> Yes it is! And is most fascinating when you move your eye away from the
> viewfinder While doing this you can become sort of mesmerized seeing
> everything as a black and white world. And that's before you've even tripped
> the shutter capturing your not bad at all BLACK & WHITE photo moment. Quite
> amazing really! YEP! Makes not bad 17" X 19" prints!
> 
> Move the camera away from your eye and quick as a penny dropping you are
> flashed back into your natural "COLOUR WORLD!"
> 
> And you know what?????????? The B&W looks quite cool in print! The
> interesting thing I found so fascinating was seeing B&W images in the
> viewfinder before you went "CLICK!" Look-up and my goodness right before
> your eye it's snapped back to colour!
> 
> So now dumb-ass question? Do all these super hot shot new B&W LEICA'S do
> that for their multi thousands of dollars? Show you the world before you in
> B&W?? Or do they just show you nothing more than the same old crap.... "The
> world in colour...... but captures the image in B&W????????  BIG DEAL AND
> FOR HOW MANY THOUSANDS??????"
> 
> Or through the view finder you view our natural colour world... but on the
> back screen you have a black & white image???????
> 
> If it doesn't let you see in B&W through the view finder? Heck why waste
> your money buying one of those when just a few hundred dollars you can have
> a magical machine that allows you to see your photo as  a pure
> B&W............. BEFORE YOU GO CLICK!
> 
> SO BIG DEAL ON ANY MONO LEICA! Heck it doesn't allow you to see how your
> potentially beautiful B&W shot looks before you go CLICK!!  I think there
> might be a few interesting responses on this???????
> 
> cheers,
> Dr. ted :-) :-)  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+tedgrant=shaw.ca at leica-users.org] On Behalf Of
> Mark Rabiner
> Sent: September-19-14 6:31 PM
> To: Leica Users Group
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Alternative to the Monochrom
> 
> It just doest come any dumber than this.
> 
> I think the purpose of the article is not to make an intelligent point but
> simply to drum up some attention
> 
> We need to get smarter and ignore such stuff. But here I am typing away!
> 
> The idea is that because you can shoot black and white jpegs with consumer
> quality cropped color fuji camera which can be in black and white mode and
> since the fuji camera has a rangefinder in it than it is a replacement or
> alternative for a Leica Monochrome. A camera which makes monochrome raw
> files from a monochrome sensor.
> In other words a consumer grade cropped color sensor replaces a full frame
> Monochrom sensor professional grade sensor.
> 
> One could say that nothing makes any difference no matter what you do. Its
> all a big giggle.
> 
> I see the title of the article is " The Fuji Monochrom"
> The problem being that its a color camera.
> 
> One can always sell ones Leica M for a very nice Pentax Spotmatic and use
> the extra many to take a short vacation but have we "replaced" our M?
> It implication is that we are using the word to say the cameras are mainly
> interchangeable. Whatever a Leica M can so so could a Spotmatic pretty much
> just as well.
> And I think Leica users and most of the rest of the world knows that that's
> not likely the case.
> 
> Its like how the word "backup" gets used.
> 
> 
> .
> 
> 
> 
> On 9/19/14 10:30 AM, "Tina Manley" <tmanley at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> I see a huge difference in the files from my Monochrom and the color
>> files
> from the M240 converted to B&W.
> 
> Tina
> 
> On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 10:25 AM,
>> George Lottermoser <
> george.imagist at icloud.com> wrote:
> 
>> The Fuji cameras
>> obviously deliver beautiful digital files; at an
>> extremely affordable price
>> when compared to the Leicas which they emulate.
>> And essentially this article
>> says, "here's a nice camera, that looks almost
>> just like a leica, which can
>> turn it's RGB files into Grayscale files (just
>> like every other digital
>> camera available).
>> 
>> Of course the same points could be made for my M8, and
>> M; or the M9, M-E;
>> or if you let go of the range finder < any mirror-less
>> camera on the market.
>> 
>> a note off the iPad, George
>> 
>> On Sep 19, 2014, at
>> 6:54 AM, Douglas Nygren via LUG <lug at leica-users.org>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Attached
>> is a link to an article describing using the Fuji X100s to do
>> black and
>> white photograph.
>>> 
>>> Given the high cost of the Monochrom, this may be a
>> good alternative.
>> X100S is a camera Leica should have made, but didn't.
>> 
>>> 
>>> I look forward to reading your comments.
>>> Doug
>>> 
>>> The Fuji
>> Monochrom By James Conley
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The Fuji Monochrom By James Conley
>> 
>>> The Fuji Monochrom By James Conley A major impediment most new
>> 
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>> only
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