[Leica] Any recommendations prints on gatorboard?

[Richard Man]

Is $6.5 million for a Peter Lik fine arts? It's not commercial as he didn't
shoot it for any particular client.

Anyway, I am all for "more time for photo making."

On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 1:36 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote:

> It all adds up though. The frame sets, board, tape, photo paper, chemistry,
> time and case of champagne.
> I've probably hung a dozen shows of about twenty prints each.
> Normally from 16x20 inch sometimes 11x14 and once 20x24 inch prints.
> I calculate how many prints I'd have to sell to recoup my investment in
> materials. I'd have to see at least a couple. And I never did. But that
> should change.
>
> I started out in Portland Oregon with a lot of photographers my age getting
> out of school and we all were very friendly and exchanged information (at
> first) and we all vowed we'd continue having fine art shows well into our
> commercial careers. Only a couple of us did that I was one of them.
> Its time consuming and expensive.
> But its a great PR thing you get interviewed in the papers and so on.
> But to many of us photography just became a business..
> Some of us started out with a fine art slant though. They all starved to
> death.
>
> On 12/30/14 8:36 PM, "Doug Herr" <wildlightphoto at earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> > With a free* radial arm saw and scrap hardwoods making custom frames
> isn't
> > expensive or difficult, and if the image doesn't sell swap the print for
> one
> > that does sell.  Archival mat board is a little over $10 for a 32" x 40"
> > sheet.  The only real expense is the glass.
> >
> > Doug Herr
> > Birdman of Sacramento
> > http://www.wildlightphoto.com
> > http://doug-herr.fineartamerica.com
> >
> > *mostly
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Richard Man <richard at richardmanphoto.com>
> >> Sent: Dec 30, 2014 4:07 PM
> >> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> >> Subject: Re: [Leica] Any recommendations prints on gatorboard?
> >>
> >> Excellent idea. If you think your work is so good that they will sell at
> >> $100,000 after you are long dead at Sotheby's, then by all mean only
> print
> >> on most archival materials or silver gelatin or albumen...
> >>
> >> Otherwise, people now look at photographs as decorations, even if it is
> >> fine arts. You don't have to play in the market,but if you do, anything
> >> that makes a good presentation without paying a framer $300 is a good
> idea.
> >>
> >> On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 3:31 PM, Ken Carney <kcarney1 at cox.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I think this might have possibilities.  More:
> >>>
> >>> http://www.jaywatson.com/blog/2010/04/16/float-mounting-photos/
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 12/29/2014 11:27 PM, Bob Adler wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Well I'm going to start getting back into printing and mounting in
> >>>> January. I think I'm going to expand on an idea of Paul Roark's and
> just
> >>>> mount on archival matte or gator board with, perhaps a protective
> spray.
> >>>> Stick that on a wall.
> >>>>
> >>>> I like to photograph and print. I don't like to frame with
> >>>> plexiglass/glass fronts and make frames. Diy framing is a PITA. PAYING
> >>>> someone  to do large prints is outrageously expensive.
> >>>>
> >>>> I just don't really care what the "art world" calls standard. The
> framers
> >>>> get the money if it sells or not, and I get a few hundred bucks if one
> >>>> sells and am stuck with the costs of the other frames. If a viewer
> doesn't
> >>>> like the freaking frame the print won't sell. I know this from
> experience.
> >>>>
> >>>> So there it will be; a bare assed print. Sells or not but only the
> cost
> >>>> of the print and board. Plus you really see the print. It's as
> intimate as
> >>>> it gets. Books are tempting too but you can't go wall sized.
> >>>>
> >>>> And more time for capturing light. Conventional standards don't
> benefit
> >>>> the photographer or enhance the interaction of the viewer one bit:
> only
> >>>> benefits the framers and gallery owners who couldn't care a less
> about the
> >>>> image: only if it sells.
> >>>>
> >>>> Fighting a cold so please forgive any grouchiness. I may not sell
> >>>> anything but I won't go broke in the process. And if presentation is
> the
> >>>> primary factor for a print selling, well that certainly ain't very
> >>>> satisfying!
> >>>> G'nite all. :-)
> >>>>
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