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Subject: [Leica] Nathan's PAD 23/2/2023: explaining the past (and a proper Leica film photo too)
From: pdzwig at summaventures.com (Peter Dzwig)
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2023 20:58:29 +0000
References: <D6F543B9-307D-4959-ABE5-B81AB51FEB16@frozenlight.eu> <791456e0-c775-6d17-74a0-dce839fa53fe@summaventures.com> <1CAECEF3-7805-4F0A-8DF5-4A8D74299D2C@frozenlight.eu>

Thanks, Nathan. Very interesting. I thought that it might be something 
like that.

Peter

On 01/03/2023 18:57, Nathan Wajsman wrote:
> Thanks, Peter. There has been some rain that morning but in general the 
> winter has been dry. In contrast to Northern Europe, it has been 
> unseasonably cold here. This morning when I was driving to work, it was 
> only 9C (48F in American money) which is extreme for Alicante in March 
> (OK, the month just started, but still). However, there is plenty of 
> tomatoes of all types, and the prices are no higher than normal, so the 
> supply problems in the UK are not weather related. I think somebody 
> screwed up and is using the cool weather down here as an excuse.
> 
> As for the plaque. It is a long story. The restoration of democracy in 
> Spain following Franco?s death in 1975 was peaceful but perhaps not 
> universally welcomed. The right wing and the Catholic Church were tightly 
> connected, and a not insignificant sector of the population would have 
> liked the Fascist government to have continued with a new head. This did 
> not happen, fortunately, but in contrast to the democratisation process in 
> places like South Africa or Poland, there was no reckoning with the 
> perpetrators of human rights violations of the previous regime?no truth 
> and reconciliation commission, no judicial proceedings, just a tacit 
> agreement to sweep things under the rug and move on. This was known as the 
> ?Pacto del Olvido? (?the pact to forget?) and until recent years it was 
> rarely questioned. Only in the past decade has there been serious movement 
> towards a more normal treatment of the past, as evidenced by the removal 
> of Franco?s body from the hideous mausoleum he had built outside Madrid 
> (he is now buried in a normal family plot) and installation of memorials 
> like our plaque in Alicante. Still, there are still street names and 
> symbols harking back to the dictatorship.
> 
> Like I said, this is all complicated, intermingled with issues of Catalan 
> nationalism, the role of the church, etc. Lluis, who has actually lived in 
> Spain during the dictatorship and through the transition and subsequent 
> years, may have a much richer perspective than I.
> 
> Cheers,
> Nathan
> 
> 
> Nathan Wajsman
> photo at frozenlight.eu
> 
> http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws
> http://www.greatpix.eu
> http://www.frozenlight.eu
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>> On 1 Mar 2023, at 10:57, Peter Dzwig <pdzwig at summaventures.com> wrote:
>>
>> Wow, you have rain in Alicante? But I guess that's why we can't get our 
>> tomatoes from Spain and Morocco at the moment.
>>
>> Very much like the picture I wonder what she makes of it, or will do in 
>> the future. Great shot.
>>
>> I guess Mussolini's planes were flying out of the Balearics. Would love 
>> to hear why it took so long to put in place.
>>
>> Peter
>>
>> On 27/02/2023 11:57, Nathan Wajsman wrote:
>>> A proper Leica image this time?shot on film with the Leica M2 and 
>>> developed by me. The background: on 25 May 1938, Alicante was the victim 
>>> of one of the many war crimes during the Spanish Civil War. The city was 
>>> besieged, and starvation was widespread. On that day, the attackers knew 
>>> that there would be a delivery of fish to the Central Market, and so 
>>> Mussolini?s air force chose to bomb the market?the objective was clearly 
>>> to sow terror among the population, there were no military targets 
>>> anywhere nearby. More than 300 people were killed.
>>> Today the square is called Plaza del 25 de Mayo, and in 2013 a memorial 
>>> plaque was installed on the pavement (the fact that it took so long 
>>> after re-establishment of democracy in 1978 is another story). Most 
>>> people just walk by, but I noticed a father explaining the meaning of 
>>> the memorial to his young daughter:
>>> https://www.greatpix.eu/All/Picture-A-Day/i-7FBJMQn/A
>>> Cheers,
>>> Nathan
>>> Nathan Wajsman
>>> Alicante, Spain
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>>> http:// <http://www.greatpix.eu/>www.greatpix.eu
>>> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws 
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