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Subject: [Leica] (SPAM: ?) Re: Medium Format Rolleiflex vs Super Ikonta III
From: leica_r8 at hotmail.com (Aram Langhans)
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2022 16:18:38 -0700
References: <E9B928A4-0C88-463C-B0BF-35F803C38917@gmail.com> <CA+3n+_nKkD9pVPyveALK6my6Q=gn3KW9mgh40R7DMhP65xevWQ@mail.gmail.com> <04538AEE-9CDE-4606-B86F-61AE6142FA1D@gmail.com>

I will agree with you the Rollie is far superior for image quality, but 
that said, the Ikonta does have s certain character that lends itself 
well to some of what you shoot.? For instance, Resting in the Park has a 
very nice character that I find quite pleasing vs the stark sharpness of 
the Rollei.? On the other hand, In the Coffee Shop is very nice and 
needed to be sharp like the Rollei can deliver.? Both good tools in your 
hands.

Aram

On 8/31/2022 3:33 AM, Lluis Ripoll wrote:
> Don,
>
> Thank you very much for your kind words!
>
> It is true, the preparation on a camera like the Rolleiflex is slower than 
> with an M, that is why I bought the Super Ikonta which is a rangefinder 
> camera faster to use, but it does not have the quality of the Rolleiflex, 
> in medium format 6x6 there is not much choice of rangefinder cameras, only 
> Mamiya, Plaubel , Fuji that I remember, but these are quite more expensive 
> cameras.
>
> Regarding the images, I prefer the quality of the Rolleiflex, I find the 
> Ikonta ones very soft.
>
> Thank you very much again!
> Lluis
>
>
>> El 31 ag 2022, a les 1:13, Don Dory via LUG <lug at leica-users.org> va 
>> escriure:
>>
>> I actually prefer the Ikonta roots image; I like the imperfections 
>> compared
>> to the Rollei.   Some days I fall into an older vision.
>>
>> Your medium format images are impressive in the slightly increased
>> composition thought: probably due to slightly slower controls compared to
>> an M.
>>
>> Then there is the tonality of medium format and FP4.  Ilford was always
>> more of a stretch in the US compared to Plus X.
>>
>> It is a pleasure to see your images.
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 30, 2022, 5:34 PM Lluis Ripoll via LUG <lug at 
>> leica-users.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I have compared photographs from two 6x6 cameras Rolleiflex with a Planar
>>> 80mm f 2.8 and Zeiss Super Ikonta III 531/16 with a Tessar 75mm f 3.5. In
>>> both I have used the same Ilford FP4 E.I. 100 film, both films have been
>>> developed together in the same tank. The photo that best shows the
>>> different performance is in Roots. Anyway the Zeiss Super Ikonta 
>>> requires a
>>> calibration of the rangefinder, today I have taken it to the seller's
>>> workshop to adjust it.
>>>
>>> In the Cofee Shop
>>> <
>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/luisrq/Medium+Format/2022F080412.jpg.html
>>> Rolleiflex E, Zeiss Planar 80mm f 2.8, Ilford FP4, D-23 1:1
>>>
>>> Light geometry
>>> <
>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/luisrq/Medium+Format/2022F080411.jpg.html
>>> Rolleiflex E, Zeiss Planar 80mm f 2.8, Ilford FP4, D-23 1:1
>>>
>>> Roots
>>> <
>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/luisrq/Medium+Format/2022F080505.jpg.html
>>> Zeiss Super Ikonta III 531/16, Ilford FP4, D-23 1:1
>>>
>>> Roots bis
>>> <
>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/luisrq/Medium+Format/2022F080402.jpg.html
>>> Rolleiflex E, Zeiss Planar 80mm f 2.8, Ilford FP4, D-23 1:1
>>>
>>> Resting on the shadows
>>> <
>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/luisrq/Medium+Format/2022F080509.jpg.html
>>> Zeiss Super Ikonta III 531/16, Ilford FP4, D-23 1:1
>>>
>>> Resting on the Park
>>> <
>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/luisrq/Medium+Format/2022F080504.jpg.html
>>> Zeiss Super Ikonta III 531/16, Ilford FP4, D-23 1:1
>>>
>>> Thanks for looking, your c&c are wecome
>>>
>>> Saludos cordiales
>>> Lluis
>>>
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-- 
Aram Langhans
(Semi) Retired Science Teacher
& Unemployed photographer
  
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would ever have dared dream.?   James D. Watson



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