Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2022/07/03
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]I do simple also, JABD. I have looked into Synology etc. some years ago but it seemed way too complicated. Cheers, Nathan Nathan Wajsman photo at frozenlight.eu http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws http://www.greatpix.eu http://www.frozenlight.eu YNWA > On 1 Jul 2022, at 06:33, Frank F via LUG <lug at leica-users.org> wrote: > > My point exactly. Easy fast simple. > > On Thu, Jun 30, 2022 at 3:34 PM Jayanand Govindaraj via LUG < > lug at leica-users.org> wrote: > >> I ventured into a Synology NAS with RAID 5 a few years ago, primarily for >> backup, and the damn thing broke down twice. Once was during the warranty >> period, when it was set right by the sole distributor in India based in >> Mumbai, and again 4 years ago. Both Synology and their distributor in >> Mumbai had decided by then that they need not reply to emails/phone calls >> from anyone owning any of their products which were out of the warranty >> period, so it still sits as an expensive paperweight in my house. These >> are >> very rare here still, so third party repair houses do not seem to be able >> to repair them either. >> >> I have reverted to doing my backups on 5TB portable external hard drives >> made by Seagate/WD. I keep three sets - one at my house, one at my son's >> house and one in my bank locker. They get updated at weekly, monthly and >> two month intervals respectively. If other members of the family want to >> access the data, they just plug in the correct USB external drive out of >> the set at home, and away they go. It works fine, it is simple and anyone >> can do it. >> >> Cheers >> Jayanand >> >> On Fri, Jul 1, 2022 at 4:28 AM Brian Reid <reid at mejac.carlsbad.ca.us> >> wrote: >> >>> I use my NAS devices to store files reliably. That's all. I don't do >>> anything fancy. Sometimes I look at sections of the manual describing >>> complex features, and think "I'm glad I don't have to read and >>> understand that". When a disk failed, I took it out and put in a new >>> one, and after about 18 hours it had fixed itself and assimilated the >>> new disk into the borg of the NAS. I handle NAS issues by not having >>> any. >>> >>> Because it's on a network (the "N" part of NAS) I can store to it from >>> any of my computers, and access files on it from any of my computers. >>> Inside the house. >>> >>> I know how to do fancy router stuff that would give me access to the NAS >>> from outside the house, but I don't, because it would give Vladimir >>> Putin's minions access too, and the best security is to have it be >>> impossible. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 2022-06-30 11:28, Frank Filippone via LUG wrote: >>>> I disagree with Brian..... He is better equipped personally to handle >>>> NAS issues than a "normal" Human, without a brother that knows this >>>> stuff. >>>> >>>> No NAS is easy to use..... other than if you wish most basic >>>> functionality... >>>> >>>> As soon as you want to automatically backup, synch (data between two >>>> drives, or your phnme to your computer) , or other more advanced >>>> technique, you will need an IT Executive to help you. >>>> >>>> I am in the midst of trying to turn on or off my NAS remotely. ( >>>> called Wake on Lan... WOL) The NAS works fine from inside the LAN, but >>>> sending the command to the NAS from a different location ( Think NJ to >>>> Calif), you need to have a special modem, router, WOL program, all of >>>> which really complicates the "ease" of working with a NAS. You also >>>> need to have a ISP company that can help you..... I am completely tied >>>> to Spectrum ( Charter subsidiary) which has no idea of what I need to >>>> do nor has given me any answers that work. Even the Tech Support has >>>> told me to get this or that WIFI Router, which also do not work..... >>>> Because they actually changed the BIOS so they WILL NOT work with WOL >>>> commands from outside the LAN. The ISP only is geared to the average >>>> homeowner, not someone that want to do something like add a NAS.... >>>> Basically, in NAS World, you are on your own. >>>> >>>> If you think this is because I have no background in Electronics, I >>>> have a BSEE Degree, which should be enough ( barely) to at least >>>> follow directions. >>>> >>>> The problem is that the NAS instructions are geared more to the >>>> average IT guy, not some homeowner...... Things come up and do not >>>> work. Why? you NEED to understand the WHY...... to find a "fix". >>>> Remember, I told you that you are on your own!!! >>>> >>>> The bottom line is that there NEEDS to be a real REASON to use a >>>> NAS.... and the willingness to put up with the pain it causes. ( or >>>> have an IT Pro in your family. A brother is a good choice.) >>>> >>>> The BEST, IMO, reason is the ability to synch 2 different HDD in two >>>> different locations, .... Otherwise stick with USB HDD. >>>> >>>> USB Connected HDD are significantly easier to use, do not use special >>>> recording formats, and are really cheap. >>>> >>>> If you are insistent upon using a NAS or NEED it..... >>>> >>>> I use, or rather trying to use, a Synology NAS. The tech support is >>>> usually pretty good, and there is lots of stuff written down to help >>>> you along. I have several. DO NOT BUY THE CHEAPEST MODEL! Get the + >>>> ( Plus) models. >>>> >>>> They come in a bunch of flavors, including 1,2,4,5 and more HDD >>>> capability. >>>> >>>> YOU need to decide if you NEED or WANT drive redundancy.... >>>> >>>> AND if all this discussion is something you do not understand, get a >>>> USB HDD or 2, or 3, and use that...... You will be lost in a >>>> NAS........ >>>> >>>> AND if you are a MAC person, there may be better Apple solutions out >>>> there..... But I only use PC's and that is all I know...... >>>> >>>> Or ask Brian if he will adopt you as his OTHER >>>> brother/Sister/Son/Daughter/Aunt/Uncle. >>>> >>>> >>>> Frank Filippone >>>> BMWRed735i at Gmail.com >>>> On 6/30/2022 7:34 AM, Brian Reid wrote: >>>>> On 2022-06-30 10:30, Jack Milton wrote: >>>>>> Hello Brian, >>>>>> I know NAS has advantages, but what do you think of the complexity >>>>>> for the average user? >>>>> >>>>> One of my brothers is a musician, living in Maine (York). I gave him a >>>>> NAS for a 60th birthday present, with the idea that he could use it >>>>> for safe and reliable storage of his music archives. He was able to >>>>> set it up and start using it without asking for help, and it has >>>>> served him flawlessly. >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Leica Users Group. >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> > -- > Frank Filippone > BMWRed735i at gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information