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Subject: [Leica] [Leica} Had a camera scare today......
From: photo at frozenlight.eu (Nathan Wajsman)
Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2022 21:44:32 +0200
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The only digital Leica I have ever had is the M8. But my point was that I 
have used the same cards in several other cameras.

Cheers,
Nathan

Nathan Wajsman
photo at frozenlight.eu

http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws
http://www.greatpix.eu
http://www.frozenlight.eu

YNWA




> On 5 Jun 2022, at 21:21, John McMaster <john at mcmaster.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> Have you ever used Sandisk in an M9 or CCD Monochrom?  They do not always 
> work in them, I used Transcend and currently Lexar...
> 
> john
> 
> ?On 05/06/2022, 19:34, "LUG on behalf of Nathan Wajsman" 
> <lug-bounces+john=mcmaster.co.uk at leica-users.org on behalf of photo at 
> frozenlight.eu> wrote:
> 
>    YMMV is the word here. I have used Sandisk, and only Sandisk, for many 
> years. In Leica, Panasonic (various models), Fuji (various models), Ricoh 
> GR?in all of them without any problems, ever.
> 
>    Cheers,
>    Nathan
> 
>    Nathan Wajsman
>    photo at frozenlight.eu
> 
>    http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws
>    http://www.greatpix.eu
>    http://www.frozenlight.eu
> 
>    YNWA
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 5 Jun 2022, at 18:25, Frank Filippone via LUG <lug at leica-users.org> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Maybe, but my Sony cards would not work in my Monochrom.  ( and yes, my 
>> fastest cards are Sony, and they work equally well in my Nikon D7100 and 
>> Sony A7, A7rii, and M240.....!)
>> 
>> It is not an issue of bulletproof.... the card is not the problem....  
>> The original EE designer is the problem.....
>> 
>> In the early digital age,and especially the early Leica M8/M9 age, it 
>> appears that Leica (and others) teamed up with a vendor and then designed 
>> the camera to work with the electrical specs of THAT vendor. Other 
>> vendors cards had slightly different specs and therefore would not work.  
>> All the cars met the Standard, but had slightly different specs..... so 
>> designing to the specific vendor card specs was a BIG mistake for us 
>> consumers.
>> 
>> Ever wonder WHY there is a recommended memory card list for an older 
>> camera?  Re-read the above..... THAT is why.
>> 
>> In the subsequent years, people complained, camera companies looked like 
>> idiots, card makers got tired of the nonsense, and new cameras were 
>> designed using the STANDARDS for SD cards.... Yes, the least common 
>> denominator specs.  All the cards worked.... which makes consumer sense...
>> 
>> The difference is in the specific vendor electrical specs vs the least 
>> common denominator standards specs.... and which you design to.
>> 
>> Nowadays, it is all but a memory.  In new cameras, all cards work.
>> 
>> But, in using older cameras, you forget the old rules, and stick the 
>> wrong BRAND and MODEL of card in your OLD camera.....
>> 
>> I bought some old Transcend cards from EBay yesterday..... want to be 
>> sure I can keep the Monochrom running......
>> 
>> And I am going to put a sticker inside the bottom plate telling me to use 
>> my Transcend cards only..... because I know I will forget again.....
>> 
>> 
>> Frank Filippone
>> BMWRed735i at Gmail.com
>> On 6/5/2022 5:59 AM, Sonny Carter via LUG wrote:
>>> I don't know how they do in Leica, but Sony Tough sd cards are 
>>> bulletproof.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> Sonny
>>> http://sonc.com <http://sonc.com/look/>
>>> Natchitoches, Louisiana
>>> 1714
>>> Oldest Permanent Settlement in the Louisiana Purchase
>>> 
>>> USA
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sun, Jun 5, 2022 at 10:26 AM John McMaster <john at mcmaster.co.uk> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Surprised they lasted this long, I only had my M9 a few months before I
>>>> had to move to Transcend cards from Sandisk....
>>>> 
>>>> john
>>>> 
>>>> On 04/06/2022, 21:28, "LUG on behalf of Frank Filippone via LUG"
>>>> <lug-bounces+john=mcmaster.co.uk at leica-users.org on behalf of
>>>> lug at leica-users.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>    My precious Monochrom ( M9 Based Digi-Leica) would not accept a 
>>>> memory
>>>> card.  Just kept telling me that there was no SD card installed.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>    I tried a bunch of other cards.  No luck.  At this point I saw a BIG
>>>> repair bill coming my way.....
>>>> 
>>>>    Did a Google search of ... Leica M9 SD Card Problems.... All the
>>>> articles were old ( well, what do you expect given the camera is old?)
>>>> 
>>>>    Three solutions were offered at that time...... a) contacts on camera
>>>> or card were "dirty".... Clean them b) Bad memory card or card reader in
>>>> the
>>>>    camera ( what I feared) and finally, c) In the beginning of the M9,
>>>> there were some issues with certain cards not working.... Leica chimed 
>>>> in
>>>> and said
>>>>    they knew about the problem, towards a fix.
>>>> 
>>>>    The cards were mostly Sandisk....
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>    Well, the cards I was trying were all Sandisk, Extreme Pro.... I had
>>>> 64GB, 32GB, 128GB..... none had worked.
>>>> 
>>>>    I did have a pair of Transcend 32GB cards..... tried one and it 
>>>> worked
>>>> perfectly.
>>>> 
>>>>    The message to leave everyone with.... if your camera acts up,, 
>>>> Google
>>>> the problem... and follow the solutions offered.
>>>> 
>>>>    I would have expected Leica to fix the incompatibility years ago, but
>>>> nope.....
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>    What did we do before the Internet?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>    B+W anyone?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>    Frank Filippone
>>>> 
> 
> 
> 
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