[Leica] James Nachtwey on Ukraine

[jayanand at gmail.com (Jayanand Govindaraj)]

A significant number of soldiers of any stripe are barbarians/ogres. That
is the only way they can function effectively when it counts.

War is a horror for both the victors and the losers, but the victors write
the history. Never forget that.

Cheers
Jayanand

On Fri, May 13, 2022 at 4:23 AM Douglas Barry <imra at iol.ie> wrote:

> Absolutely, no wonder you're proud of him, Nathan. Unfortunately, it
> appears that a significant number of the soldiers of the Russian army
> are - to put it simply - utter barbarians, led by an ogre. The problem
> is that it won't go away.
>
> Putin may be willing to keep throwing gullible cannon fodder, leavened
> with his Wagner barbarians, at the front lines in the hope he will win
> the resulting war of attrition, or, in desperation, use a small tactical
> nuke to give himself momentum. That said, this could trigger an uprising
> internally, not to mention a problem for NATO. After all the Russian
> people have had Putin in charge for 23 years, and with the eternal power
> dynamics of humanity, there are probably a lot more quiet dissenters in
> his circle than there used to be. I presume that there are a few Von
> Stauffenbergs there now as Hitler only ruled for 11 years before the
> assassination attempt. One can only hope someone is good with a
> briefcase...
>
> Douglas
>
>
> On 12/05/2022 21:26, Jasse Chan via LUG wrote:
> > This may be one of the best things I?ve ever heard.
> >
> > Jasse
> >
> > On Thu, May 12, 2022 at 9:11 PM Nathan Wajsman <photo at frozenlight.eu>
> wrote:
> >
> >> My father fought in World War II, covering 2500 km from Russia to Berlin
> >> between 1943 and 1945. Some time in 1945, already in Germany, one
> evening
> >> the unit he was leading arrived in a village in eastern Germany and
> stopped
> >> there for the night. A bit later, screams were heard from a house in the
> >> village. Two Russian soldiers were raping a German woman while her two
> >> small sons were looking on. My father drew his pistol which stopped the
> >> ordeal. Fast forward 30+ years. We were already living in Denmark. The
> two
> >> little boys were now engineers in Hamburg and somehow they tracked down
> my
> >> father in Aarhus and invited him to come down to visit. Such is life.
> >>
> >> Nathan
> >>
> >> Nathan Wajsman
> >> photo at frozenlight.eu
> >>
> >> http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws
> >> http://www.greatpix.eu
> >> http://www.frozenlight.eu
> >>
> >> YNWA
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> On 12 May 2022, at 14:44, Don Dory via LUG <lug at leica-users.org>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I thank the New Yorker for opening the pay wall so that these could be
> >>> seen.
> >>>
> >>> My college Russian professor was an eastern Germany refugee that saw
> >> first
> >>> hand what the Russian forces did that closely mimics what we are seeing
> >>> today.  What was tolerable once due to circumstances then begets
> >>> intolerable behavior now.
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, May 2, 2022, 2:27 PM Brian Reid <reid at mejac.carlsbad.ca.us>
> >> wrote:
> >>>> In my opinion, James Nachtwey is the best contemporary war
> photographer
> >>>> and one of the best who has ever lived. The current issue of the New
> >>>> Yorker has a portfolio of his recent pictures from Ukraine. And it's
> >>>> online here if you are a subscriber:
> >>>> https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/portfolio/05/09/the-costs-of-war
> >>>>
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