Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2022/01/09
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]I recall reading that the Sony cameras had a reduced dynamic range when shot in electronic shutter mode. It?s not clear if that?s some sensor thing or even if if it?s accurate. I can?t see a difference between mechanical and electronic shutter with my SL2-S but I?m not doing serious experiments either. There is a price in terms of the size of the sensor stack for IBIS. Over on the Leica Australia Youtube channel there are a series of really interesting interviews with the Leica lens designer of the Sl series lenses comparing them to the M lenses. <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vyoAIOTIcs&t=560s <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vyoAIOTIcs&t=560s>> That?s the 2nd one. Adam > On 2022 Jan 8, at 12:22 PM, Don Dory via LUG <lug at leica-users.org> > wrote: > > Philippe, I primarily use a Sony A1 in the silent shutter mode. I am well > familiar with the usefulness of IBIS and a silent shutter. I find I can > almost equal the Sony with my M9 using Summilux lenses in terms of > sharpness. Shutter noise is higher but in normal environments no one hears > it but me. I used the M10R monochrome in the Seattle area this fall and > the shutter release is especially wonderful: if the M11 is as good then I > am much poorer as I will be hunting down the APO lenses to go with my new > M. For some reason my best people/street images are taken with M's. Go > figure. > > On Sat, Jan 8, 2022 at 2:17 PM Philippe via LUG <lug at leica-users.org> > wrote: > >> Sorry Don, try an electronic shutter and feel the difference ; no sound, >> no vibration ? we?re here, all, in the past :-) >> >> >> Amities >> >> Philippe >> >> >> >>> Le 8 janv. 2022 ? 21:03, Don Dory via LUG <lug at leica-users.org> a >>> ?crit >> : >>> >>> I will just add that most of the current M lineup will not deliver the >> full >>> capabilities of the new sensor. On a conference call with the chief lens >>> designer he admitted that the current ASPH Summilux line was optimized >> for >>> 40mp. So the APO Summicrons will be very desirable moving forward with >> the >>> new cameras coming. As to IBIS, if Leica gets the high ISO performance >> up >>> to par then with the lenses you use on an M you will not especially need >>> it. The M platform usually lets you shoot much slower shutter speeds >> than >>> other cameras. I always thought it was the viewfinder let you hold the >>> camera steadier as your eye could hold a point in the viewfinder steady. >>> We will see. >>> >>> On Sat, Jan 8, 2022 at 12:54 PM Frank Filippone via LUG < >> lug at leica-users.org> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> In 5 days, on January 13, the M11 will be formally introduced. >>>> >>>> In its most basic analysis, an M10 with a 60MP Sensor. >>>> >>>> It has a 60MP sensor. The external Visoflex it uses to allow for EVF >> type >>>> viewing will be new. No IBIS. >>>> >>>> Trap door on the bottom to access SD Card and Battery. ( No more >> removable >>>> bottom!) >>>> >>>> Expected price is LESS than the M10 currently in the lineup. >>>> ( Probably the same sensor as the Sony A7riv, which sells for >> $3000-3500, >>>> with IBIS) >>>> >>>> I am//awaiting the M12, presumably WITH IBIS. >>>> >>>> Once you use IBIS, you won't go back. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> Frank Filipp >>>> BMWRed735i at Gmail.com >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Leica Users Group. >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Don >>> don.dory at gmail.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > -- > Don > don.dory at gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information