Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2022/01/08
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]I have foregone the metal shutter altogether with my New Year gift to myself, the Nikon Z9! Delivered on 24th December on advance order, the first day of deliveries in India. I used the logic that if I did not like it, considering the potentially huge waiting lists all over the world (for a US#5.5k camera body!), I could always sell it on the secondary market for what I paid for it. If you order a Nikon Z9 today, you would be lucky to get delivery before October 2022. The same is true for the Canon R3 - indicative delivery dates here in June 2022. Sony has quietly dropped half a dozen models from their current catalogue, including all their APS-C offerings, trying to optimize parts to make top of the line bodies . All because of a global chip shortage, and as far as Canon/Nikon are concerned, the first mirrorless flagship offering for which there is huge pent up demand. The M11 will be no different, they are not immune to market forces - those interested might as well jump in early! If there is a shortage, and you do not like it, you will be able to flip it at a premium, making a real, inflation adjusted profit on a camera - a very rare occurrence! ? Cheers Jayanand On Sun, Jan 9, 2022 at 1:52 AM Don Dory via LUG <lug at leica-users.org> wrote: > Philippe, I primarily use a Sony A1 in the silent shutter mode. I am well > familiar with the usefulness of IBIS and a silent shutter. I find I can > almost equal the Sony with my M9 using Summilux lenses in terms of > sharpness. Shutter noise is higher but in normal environments no one hears > it but me. I used the M10R monochrome in the Seattle area this fall and > the shutter release is especially wonderful: if the M11 is as good then I > am much poorer as I will be hunting down the APO lenses to go with my new > M. For some reason my best people/street images are taken with M's. Go > figure. > > On Sat, Jan 8, 2022 at 2:17 PM Philippe via LUG <lug at leica-users.org> > wrote: > > > Sorry Don, try an electronic shutter and feel the difference ; no sound, > > no vibration ? we?re here, all, in the past :-) > > > > > > Amities > > > > Philippe > > > > > > > > > Le 8 janv. 2022 ? 21:03, Don Dory via LUG <lug at leica-users.org> a > ?crit > > : > > > > > > I will just add that most of the current M lineup will not deliver the > > full > > > capabilities of the new sensor. On a conference call with the chief > lens > > > designer he admitted that the current ASPH Summilux line was optimized > > for > > > 40mp. So the APO Summicrons will be very desirable moving forward with > > the > > > new cameras coming. As to IBIS, if Leica gets the high ISO performance > > up > > > to par then with the lenses you use on an M you will not especially > need > > > it. The M platform usually lets you shoot much slower shutter speeds > > than > > > other cameras. I always thought it was the viewfinder let you hold the > > > camera steadier as your eye could hold a point in the viewfinder > steady. > > > We will see. > > > > > > On Sat, Jan 8, 2022 at 12:54 PM Frank Filippone via LUG < > > lug at leica-users.org> > > > wrote: > > > > > >> In 5 days, on January 13, the M11 will be formally introduced. > > >> > > >> In its most basic analysis, an M10 with a 60MP Sensor. > > >> > > >> It has a 60MP sensor. The external Visoflex it uses to allow for EVF > > type > > >> viewing will be new. No IBIS. > > >> > > >> Trap door on the bottom to access SD Card and Battery. ( No more > > removable > > >> bottom!) > > >> > > >> Expected price is LESS than the M10 currently in the lineup. > > >> ( Probably the same sensor as the Sony A7riv, which sells for > > $3000-3500, > > >> with IBIS) > > >> > > >> I am//awaiting the M12, presumably WITH IBIS. > > >> > > >> Once you use IBIS, you won't go back. > > >> > > >> -- > > >> > > >> Frank Filipp > > >> BMWRed735i at Gmail.com > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> Leica Users Group. > > >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > >> > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Don > > > don.dory at gmail.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Leica Users Group. > > > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Leica Users Group. > > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > -- > Don > don.dory at gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information