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Subject: [Leica] Leica Elmar 90mm f4 LTM
From: jayanand at gmail.com (Jayanand Govindaraj)
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2021 08:47:45 +0530
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Do you know of anyone who can set the rangefinder of a Canon 7s right? I
put an LTM lens on mine long ago, and it had mechanically messed around
with the rangefinder, making focusing difficult.

Cheers
Jayanand

On Fri, Jul 23, 2021 at 8:37 AM Jeffery Smith via LUG <lug at 
leica-users.org>
wrote:

> Hi Jayanand,
>
> Actually it's the process. I put the LTM lenses on Canon 7s bodies, and I
> do stand development with Rodinal for 120 minutes when other developers
> would take only 10 minutes. I like B&W from the 1940s to 1970s, so I like
> using the same equipment that was used then as well. I don't want anything
> sharper than HCB or Winogrand had. And, when it was still available, I
> liked 777 developer, as scummy as it could look in the bottle.
>
> It's not all that strange. Players in baroque orchestras play on valveless
> horns, and there are CDs of piano music played on Clara Schumann's piano.
> If I sold my work, I'd probably have a much different perspective,
> especially if sharp was expected. With every man, woman, and child in
> advanced countries carrying a smart phone around, anyone can take a pretty
> good photo in color, in focus, and better looking than film. I want to do
> it the old way, the way I learned it in the 60s.
>
> I *do* have my limits. I won't shoot animals for food. I'd rather have
> beef than deer. And I won't develop any film in coffee.
>
> Jeffery (the Dinosaur) :-)
>
> > On Jul 22, 2021, at 7:30 PM, Jayanand Govindaraj via LUG <
> lug at leica-users.org> wrote:
> >
> > As long as you are scanning film to digital, and processing for
> > display/printing from there, it would be better to have crisp images that
> > can be softened any which way you want in PP, because the converse (i.e.
> > soft to sharp) might not always be possible. IMHO, it is always better to
> > have too much information than too little, the range of possibilities for
> > the final output is far greater.
> >
> > Of course, I am assuming here that the only important aspect is not the
> > process or methodology, but the final output.
> >
> > Cheers
> > Jayanand
> >
> > On Fri, Jul 23, 2021 at 3:23 AM Jeffery Smith via LUG <
> lug at leica-users.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Thank you very much! If I was shooting just cityscapes, buildings, etc.,
> >> modern sharp lenses would be the way to go, but I'm increasingly trying
> to
> >> get human faces into everything and I don't want sharp details to
> distract
> >> from the overall impression of the face. As Capa said, if the pictures
> >> aren't good enough, you aren't close enough (paraphrased). It will be
> >> interesting trying some SP with 90mm as the lens.
> >>
> >> Back home in Louisiana, I have some Leica 50s that are vintage
> (Summarit,
> >> Summitar, collapsible Summicron) and I wish I had brought them to
> >> California with me.  For now, it is the 90/4 Elmar and two very clean
> >> Jupiters.
> >>
> >>> On Jul 22, 2021, at 2:14 PM, Lluis Ripoll via LUG <lug at 
> >>> leica-users.org
> >
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Yes! It?s a wonderful shot Jeffery, I?m also a lover of the old lenses,
> >> as Frank said the modrrn ones are too sharp, too crisp, I love the
> Mandler
> >> lenses.
> >>>
> >>> Lluis
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> El 22 jul 2021, a les 18:04, Jeffery Smith via LUG <
> lug at leica-users.org>
> >> va escriure:
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks Lluis. You might remember the chess matches from about 2
> decades
> >> ago.
> >>>>
> >>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Jeffery+Smith/Chess-Match-4.jpg.html
> <
> >> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Jeffery+Smith/Chess-Match-4.jpg.html>
> >>>>
> >>>> I just chose 6 of my favorites, based mostly on the children's
> >> expressions.
> >>>>
> >>>> The only lens I had with me was a 50/2.8 Elmar, but the room was very
> >> well lit up.
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Jul 22, 2021, at 8:28 AM, Lluis Ripoll via LUG <
> lug at leica-users.org>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> +1
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Great portraits, lovely work
> >>>>> Lluis
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> El 21 jul 2021, a les 4:29, Jayanand Govindaraj via LUG <
> >> lug at leica-users.org> va escriure:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Alan, Jeffery
> >>>>>> Both stunning portraits. Beautiful
> >>>>>> Cheers
> >>>>>> Jayanand
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Tue, Jul 20, 2021 at 6:57 PM Alan Magayne-Roshak via LUG <
> >>>>>> lug at leica-users.org> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Per the discussion on the Elmar 90mm f4 LTM, I think it might
> almost
> >> be too
> >>>>>>> sharp for a portrait lens.  I took this when my only lenses for my
> >> M3 were
> >>>>>>> the 50 Summicron
> >>>>>>> collapsible and this 1946 Elmar 90 that I bought for $49.00 in
> >> 1974.  The
> >>>>>>> stop was f/5.6.  View large and notice the stray hair on the cheek.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> <
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Alan+Magayne-Roshak/Portraits/Charisse/19750712_MR_Charisse_2.jpg.html
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>> Alan
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Alan Magayne-Roshak, Senior Photographer
> >>>>>>> University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee Photo Services
> >>>>>>> (Retired)
> >>>>>>> UPAA Photographer of the Year 1978
> >>>>>>> UPAA Master of the Profession 2014
> >>>>>>> amagayneroshak at gmail.com
> >>>>>>> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Alan+Magayne-Roshak/>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> "All the technique in the world doesn't compensate
> >>>>>>> for an inability to notice. " - Elliott Erwitt
> >>>>>>>
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